Talen Horton-Tucker commits to Iowa State
Well said!
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TheFameProtector
- Champaign
Didn't listen to Piper and Werner. Spark notes version, what did they say?
Well here it is....sad day honestly that a kid cannot commit to the school he wants to go to because two pompous coaches/programs play politics with their players futures...If I was BU and they asked me to pull the offer I would guarantee that every kid from Ayo's program will be steered to Illinois no if ands or buts about it....if not we just got played....really played...
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So you'd take 15 win seasons for integrity? It's a sport that is a billion dollar network. Winning is the only thing in this game. I get it doesn't represent the University well but a national championship...hell, a big ten championship later and nobody is talking about this.
IllFanInMi
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THT said it himself, he was wowed by his OV, saw the campus in full function, enjoyed the love he got from those watching his workout, probably built relationships with the guys. For all of you being shortsighted and actually worse than that saying he could've committed before, REALLY??? That's why you take visits, let the process work, don't rush decisions!
Going to college is not like buying a pack of gum, especially for big time athletes!
SHAME ON ALL INVOLVED
Going to college is not like buying a pack of gum, especially for big time athletes!
SHAME ON ALL INVOLVED
Nahh... shame that our program even fell so far that we are surprised this is how recruiting works. Regardless, wish it could have ended better but I am very content with AYO
Yes I would without question. And, again, I am hoping it is not true.
Doing this once is like telling a lie. You have to keep telling bigger and bigger ones to cover. In this case, you are going to be called on by other coaches or recruits to cater to their whims. Problem is that this just doesn't end here. Who knows what reverberations this is going to have in the future for our program. Do you actually believe that other HS coaches and future recruits are no going to consider this in dealing with the UI coaching staff in the future?
another point is if you are on an OV at CU, can you really trust the staff when they say how much they want you?
Guys will be asking "do you think uncle Nick will like me"?
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I Bomb
Stylin' and Profilin'
Not sure if this has been said, but I'm hearing people sad that we ruined a kid's dream of coming to Illinois - yet, instead of drawing back and re-assessing his situation he committed to Iowa St. pretty quickly, no? I understand he had made up his mind to commit here, but it must have been tighter than that to just say, ok I'm going Iowa St. instead...
Piper said THT woke up this morning ready to commit to Illinois and then by mid day he was told that wasn't going to happen and not by THTs choice. No specifics on how it happened, but the fact that it happened on the day of the public commitment is pathetic and embarrassing for the program and donors like myself.
Whitman will need to have a talk with Underwood on this one because this is obviously not the way the university should be represented and this was the absolutely worst route that could've been taken. Who knows, this could end up alienating the Irvins now with all this negative press. So many unforced errors.
IllFanInMi
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The shame is that ALL the adult morons didn't deal with the situation prior to the OV, or perhaps hours before the announcement, thus making the parties to this mess look like bafoons!!! Oh and seemingly hurting a 16 year old kid in the process.
This is the same way I feel. Hopefully there is more to the story that will come out. If not, this will be a permanent stain on Underwood, Whitman, and the entire Illini basketball program. Just when I thought Illini basketball was back on track with Ayo, Smith, Frazier, and Da'Monte we throw it all away by being classless.
Honor means something to me. It is sad it doesn't mean much to other people this day and age.
I completely agree. Count me out of "big boy" recruiting if it means pulling offers from 16 yr old kids on the day of their commitment ceremony. You don't have to choose between winning and integrity but it appears likely we just did.
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
Thank you!! This. You don't think BU WANTED to sign them both? I'm sure the coaching staff did everything they could to smooth things over. In the end, it was one or the other. They chose the 5 star PG who committed first.
My goodness, take a step back, people.
Who in the right mind will want their kids to play for Nick Irvin now? Dad needs to move out of the area after sophomore season for work and leave the fire? Expect to be Blackballed when trying to go to college. Kid rides the bench for the fire and will get to play 3/4 of the game for team Rose, expect to get talked down about by a grown man if your 15 year old son wants to play a game instead of sitting on a bench. Pathetic.
The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
Agreed. This isn't pro sports. This is a program that represents a school most of us attended. I don't want my school, which I paid a !!!!-ton to as an out of state student and continue to contribute to, to act like this. Our school losing at sports sucks, but it doesn't reflect poorly on us. Our school acting without honor does and that is completely unacceptable.
Good speed to Underwood. He made a hell of a Faustian bargain with MIF; he better hope it pays off.
Irvin is likely to blame here, but if we're giving credit to Chin for Ayo, I think he needs some blame for not getting ahead of this. It wasn't a secret that Irvin had beef with THT. If we were going to cave to the MIF in the end, we should've had the foresight to feel that out ahead of the OV. Seems like checkers when we should've been playing chess.
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Agree - reading this thread is almost as bad as PostGame threads on days where we lose a game. I am not sure why everyone assumes they know exactly how this all happened and all the circumstances. Are we all that quick to turn on BU and JW? Wow.