Terrence Shannon Jr. reinstated

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altgeld88

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LFG TSJ!!!! I was just thinking about him this morning and worried that, cut off from practicing with his teammates and the game over the past three weeks, he must be feeling low. Was hoping he's got support around him. Just saw the news and am so excited for him. What fantastic news!
 
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
I give you ... the Extremely Lucky Timeline that Illini fans have gone through decades of torment to realize in 2024:

1. TSJ's request for the suspension to be overturned is granted on Friday 1/19/2024. ✅
2. The Illini get on another hot streak, starting with RU at home and a win at NU in front of a majority Illini crowd.
3. The Illini sit atop the Big Ten and in the top 5 of the AP poll the day of Shannon's preliminary hearing (Friday 2/23). No new evidence to move the needle is presented by the DA, and the judge (perhaps considering the DA's very sketchy past) rules that there should have not been probably cause to even charge TSJ in the first place. The charges are dropped, and Shannon is free to live his life as a 110% innocent man!
4. The next day, Illinois absolutely demolishes Iowa by 30+ in the House of 'Paign.
5. On Tuesday 3/5, the Illini get revenge on Purdue at home and clinch what should be our third Big Ten championship in four years.
6. We finish the season by sweeping rival Iowa in Iowa City ... I'll be there. :cool:
7. Honestly don't care about the BTT, but I guess we can win it if it doesn't tire us out too much? ;)
8. Playing like no team has played since our 2005 squad, this team is together, hungry and playing with a chip on their shoulder. They simply are not going to be stopped.
9. On Monday 4/8/2024, for the first time in its storied history, the Illinois Fighting Illini are crowned National Champions.
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GForce

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Fighter of the Nightman said:
I give you ... the Extremely Lucky Timeline that Illini fans have gone through decades of torment to realize in 2024:

1. TSJ's request for the suspension to be overturned is granted on Friday 1/19/2024. ✅
2. The Illini get on another hot streak, starting with RU at home and a win at NU in front of a majority Illini crowd.
3. The Illini sit atop the Big Ten and in the top 5 of the AP poll the day of Shannon's preliminary hearing (Friday 2/23). No new evidence to move the needle is presented by the DA, and the judge (perhaps considering the DA's very sketchy past) rules that there should have not been probably cause to even charge TSJ in the first place. The charges are dropped, and Shannon is free to live his life as a 110% innocent man!
4. The next day, Illinois absolutely demolishes Iowa by 30+ in the House of 'Paign.
5. On Tuesday 3/5, the Illini get revenge on Purdue at home and clinch what should be our third Big Ten championship in four years.
6. We finish the season by sweeping rival Iowa in Iowa City ... I'll be there. :cool:
7. Honestly don't care about the BTT, but I guess we can win it if it doesn't tire us out too much? ;)
8. Playing like no team has played since our 2005 squad, this team is together, hungry and playing with a chip on their shoulder. They simply are not going to be stopped.
9. On Monday 4/8/2024, for the first time in its storied history, the Illinois Fighting Illini are crowned National Champions.
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I especially like #3 and really hope it happens.

Oh, and #9
 
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I’m thankful he’s back (at least for now) but at the same time I am a little angry. Our judicial system is supposedly an “innocent until proven guilty” but if nothing comes from this then he was “guilty until proven innocent” for the last however many weeks and that is robbery. Again, a lot of unknowns, but I’m thankful he’s back and hope this continues in a positive way for all parties for justice to be served properly.
 
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Illinifrank67

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Rutgers right now ^
 
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pruman91

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OrangeNBrood_Redux said:
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Introducing TSJ 2.0

And the Season of Redemption.

May orange and blue rain unleash from the sky henceforth, and comprehensively flood the college basketball earth.

Today is a day of many heavy emotions set free.
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The path to the truth sometimes takes forks that don't seem so obvious to a layman , but eventually all roads lead to the guiding light of factual truisms..........
 
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derrick6

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PattyOBryant said:
NIL changed the landscape immensely. One could argue it put everyone on the same playing field and neutered the dirty programs.

Transfer with immediate eligibility was the other colossal change. It turned the mid-major programs into a farm system that develop players for their one year showcase at a major program.

This ain't your daddy's college basketball anymore.
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Umm, NIL is the only reason TJ has some level of protection, ability to fight for his future.

Hooray for NIL working for the player’s interest.
 
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The presumption of innocence is a requirement for a fair trial, but is not generally required in other aspects of life. Those who work for a private employer in an at-will employment state (and without some kind of contract) have no such promise.

And there are plenty of situations where a reasonable person would not want an employer to fully presume an employee is innocent until proven guilty. I, for one, would not want an elementary school to presume that someone charged with molesting children is innocent until proven guilty and continue to allow them to work.

Everyone will have a different opinion on where TSJ's situation falls on the spectrum - both of likelihood of guilt and likelihood of doing more harm if guilty (in this case, harm is the reputation of the university since they're still allowing him to attend) - but the situation is much more complicated than saying we should always act as if someone is completely innocent until proven otherwise.
 
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IlliniCaboose

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I wonder if the same pollsters who immediately dropped us from the top 25 when the charges were first announced will immediately put us back into the top 6-10 now that he's back?
 
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RickF

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If the other teams chant something derogatory towards him and if he is found not guilty. Could he sue the other universities for slander?
 
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LvilleILL said:
The expectation is that he is back for the rest of the season
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Because the university is choosing not to pursue anything under OSCR policy, because OSCR policy can't really be followed with an out-of-state (and/or non-student) accuser, or because it couldn't be completed before the season is over, or something else?
 
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Navy_illini said:
The university needs to figure out when they can and cannot suspend a player. based on the person and the facts about the incident that have been public most on here don’t seem to have a major issue with his return. So if a player is out on bail and court cases don’t interfere then they play?

This will take time for the university to figure out
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I'm still not convinced that the University didn't know this is exactly what would happen. with how this played out, University can't be roasted in the media for allowing him to play until the court case. They tried, but were overruled by the court, its not their fault
 
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Ghost77

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Perhaps this is what happens when the Court of Public Opinion starts having an undue influence within the Court of Law.

That said, if this exact situation happened to a player from a different team, say someone like a Jordan Bohannon from Iowa, I can pretty much guarantee that most on here would be calling for him to get the chair before a court date was even set.
 
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