The Illinois Coaching Search

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EJ33

San Francisco
LOL, I think it's hilarious when casual fans "value" frugality in our coaching searches ... if Illinois were paying someone $10 million a year and that guy would win basketball games here and some boosters were paying for it, then I'm all for it! Not my money!

And, a great coach gets you positive headlines instead of negative ones, more students, more out-of-state students, and more donations. A great coach can add 10x or more the value of his (her) salary. Saban is the exception that proves the rule:

The Magic Of Nick Saban: Everyone Wants To Go To Alabama

Another example is Coach K. K has elevated Duke's national reputation significantly. That's why he gets like $8M a year. It's a smart investment.

A winning coach at Illinois would be worth every penny - even if the impact was a fraction of the impact of an outlier coach like Saban or K.
 
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Tony Bennett is one impressive individual. Illinois would be extremely fortunate to have someone like him. He'd raise the level of basketball significantly over where it's been the last several years. Considering he's still pretty young, he may be above Marshall on my wish list.
 
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TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
If Miller is your first choice, as he is mine, why would you offer him less than Marshall?

Fair point. I think $4m/year for a guy currently making around $1m/year is a good offer. If you had to offer a little bit more, so be it.
 
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Captain Bubbles

Fairfield, IL
And, a great coach gets you positive headlines instead of negative ones, more students, more out-of-state students, and more donations. A great coach can add 10x or more the value of his (her) salary. Saban is the exception that proves the rule:

The Magic Of Nick Saban: Everyone Wants To Go To Alabama

Forrest Gump went to Alabama and we saw what happened in the years ahead as he’s making more than Saban.
 
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I think that it is amazing that Wooden was given 14 years to figure it out. No way any coach today is given that kind of time.

Wooden won the conference five times, won 20 games (back when that meant something) six times, and never had a losing conference record or anywhere near a losing overall record during the period in which he "figured it out".
 
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That's a hellava stroke by that little kid , kind of a walk off homerun ?
 
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I think that it is amazing that Wooden was given 14 years to figure it out. No way any coach today is given that kind of time.

Snips from a Dave Zirin article: "Lavar Ball, the garrulous hype-man/father of UCLA star freshman Lonzo Ball as well as upcoming prepsters LaMelo Ball and Liangelo Ball, was asked if he believed that he was “exploiting” his sons. His response: “What do you think UCLA is doing?” Half the sports commentariat reached for their fainting couches and the other half said, “Damn right.” This nexus of labor exploitation and bracketology is seen most clearly when we look at coaching salaries. The five highest-paid coaches in this year’s tournament—Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski, Kentucky’s John Calipari, Arizona’s Sean Miller, Kansas’s Bill Self, and Michigan State’s Tom Izzo earn an average of roughly $5.6 million a year, with Coach K’s $7.3 million annual take on the top of this particular pyramid. In 1984, the average coaching salary was closer to $50,000 than $5 million. John Wooden, who coached UCLA to 10 championships in 12 seasons, and retired in 1975, never made more than $35,000 a season. I asked UCLA all-time great and Wooden protégé Kareem Abdul Jabbar how much Wooden would make if he coached today, and the normally taciturn Kareem laughed and said simply, “They couldn’t afford him.”... The highest-paid college coaching job in 1975 was valued at $35,000 a year. In 2017 dollars, that would be an annual take of $159,000. The cult of bracketology has taken a $159,000-a-year job and turned it into one that pays $7.3 million... The NCAA is is a zombie system, feeding on the flesh of the people they are supposed to be educating. It’s an operation that needs to be wrecked and rebuilt, not just for the good of the players but for the good of the rest of us who are complicit in this madness." http://www.edgeofsports.com/2017-03-13-1235/index.html My Comment: No one is given 14 years anymore in a "student athlete" sports venture that has evolved into uber Quasi-Professionalism. Some won't be given 14 months. Too much money at stake and too much money concentrated into too few hands.
 
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Snips from a Dave Zirin article: "Lavar Ball, the garrulous hype-man/father of UCLA star freshman Lonzo Ball as well as upcoming prepsters LaMelo Ball and Liangelo Ball, was asked if he believed that he was “exploiting” his sons. His response: “What do you think UCLA is doing?” Half the sports commentariat reached for their fainting couches and the other half said, “Damn right.” This nexus of labor exploitation and bracketology is seen most clearly when we look at coaching salaries. The five highest-paid coaches in this year’s tournament—Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski, Kentucky’s John Calipari, Arizona’s Sean Miller, Kansas’s Bill Self, and Michigan State’s Tom Izzo earn an average of roughly $5.6 million a year, with Coach K’s $7.3 million annual take on the top of this particular pyramid. In 1984, the average coaching salary was closer to $50,000 than $5 million. John Wooden, who coached UCLA to 10 championships in 12 seasons, and retired in 1975, never made more than $35,000 a season. I asked UCLA all-time great and Wooden protégé Kareem Abdul Jabbar how much Wooden would make if he coached today, and the normally taciturn Kareem laughed and said simply, “They couldn’t afford him.”... The highest-paid college coaching job in 1975 was valued at $35,000 a year. In 2017 dollars, that would be an annual take of $159,000. The cult of bracketology has taken a $159,000-a-year job and turned it into one that pays $7.3 million... The NCAA is is a zombie system, feeding on the flesh of the people they are supposed to be educating. It’s an operation that needs to be wrecked and rebuilt, not just for the good of the players but for the good of the rest of us who are complicit in this madness." http://www.edgeofsports.com/2017-03-13-1235/index.html My Comment: No one is given 14 years anymore in a "student athlete" sports venture that has evolved into uber Quasi-Professionalism. Some won't be given 14 months. Too much money at stake and too much money concentrated into too few hands.

Yeah. I didn't read that.
 
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Captain Bubbles

Fairfield, IL
Those guys can still make it up on stage? They were geezers in the 80's!

Define 'geezer'. REO Speedwagon members still rock and get around very well. Neil is the oldest at 70.

Whitman is all about business. If he wanted to bring REO to Champaign, he probably could. I do not see it happening whatsoever though.

Josh will research and explore all options. I have a feeling he will announce his decision for head coach whenever that coach's team is done playing in the NCAA Tournament.

We don't know the time, but given Whitman's statement during the presser, it's likely several days away. But who knows.
 
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Man Bardo does not sugar coat things. He's on the J and Tay Show right now
 
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