The Illinois Coaching Search

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No, people were freaking out about Gregg Marshall b/c JKat changed his avatar then posted a gif. Then people were freaking about Tony Bennett b/c someone posted a link to a Werner tweet quoting Sean Harrington as saying $4M is the kind of $ that would get Tony Bennett.

Sigh.

Made for a enjoyable afternoon though, didn't it!
 
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zpfled

Logan Square, Chicago
It's so fun when the snowball effect kicks in and everyone gets ramped up in 3 seconds.
 
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No, people were freaking out about Gregg Marshall b/c JKat changed his avatar then posted a gif. Then people were freaking about Tony Bennett b/c someone posted a link to a Werner tweet quoting Sean Harrington as saying $4M is the kind of $ that would get Tony Bennett.

Sigh.

Somebody said something about Vandy.

Oh well. Carry on.

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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
No, people were freaking out about Gregg Marshall b/c JKat changed his avatar then posted a gif. Then people were freaking about Tony Bennett b/c someone posted a link to a Werner tweet quoting Sean Harrington as saying $4M is the kind of $ that would get Tony Bennett.

Sigh.


We are all freaking out

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One question I have for everyone on this board...


Would you want someone who operates heavily in the grey if it meant we got good recruits and won games...or does integrity really matter to you?


I think this is a generational thing honestly.

I am generally OK with just about anything on this side of assault. The rest I can compartmentalize fairly seamlessly.
 
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Lucy727

Des Plaines, Il
Hmm, JW just fired WBB coach Bollant. Two searches at one time? Maybe he does have his men's coach lined up already.
 
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This is actually a good point. In the last 40+ years the only head basketball coaches and football coaches to leave Illinois for another college job was Mackovich to Texas and Self to Kansas. That doesn't exactly scream stepping stone programs.

Groce and Weber weren't going anywhere because they weren't offered any other job. Same for football. I doubt Henson was offered a better offer either. Put me in the camp that Self was taking the first train out of town that had greener pastures.
 
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Nope. Bennett was before Archie.

We can offer Bennett his own island, he's just going to walk it back to his employers and get a contract extension out of it.

Every candidate (or their agent) is going to reciprocate your interest and say all the right things. Every single one. There is no downside to being courted for another job.
 
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Groce and Weber weren't going anywhere because they weren't offered any other job. Same for football. I doubt Henson was offered a better offer either. Put me in the camp that Self was taking the first train out of town that had greener pastures.

Weber allegedly was offered Oklahoma before they hired Kruger.
 
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This article from about an hour or so ago is basically what Werner said that got all the goobers goobing --or gabbing -- .
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...nois-basketball-spt-0315-20170314-column.html
One source familiar with the Illinois board of trustees discussions said Whitman could have as much as $25 million to spend."We're willing to do what we need to do on the financial side,'' Whitman said.
That is where Illinois' commitment to become an annual Big Ten contender again starts. Consider college basketball's 10 highest-paid coaches earned an average of $4.8 million per year in 2016, according to the USA Today's coaching database. More in line with Illinois' aim, the average salary of the coaches ranked between fifth and 15th was $3.34 million.
No matter what you hear about Illinois basketball on a talk show, message board or barstool, if Whitman possesses the authority to offer a contract worth $25 million, he can find an accomplished coach willing to work in the Big Ten and live in Champaign-Urbana. Money often opens doors as quickly as it does minds when it comes to career changes.
 
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Groce and Weber weren't going anywhere because they weren't offered any other job. Same for football. I doubt Henson was offered a better offer either. Put me in the camp that Self was taking the first train out of town that had greener pastures.

Well, then the question becomes where are the greener pastures? Blue Bloods (as I define them: UK, UNC, KU, Duke, UCLA, IU and UL) are obvious. I'll go ahead and cross off all Big Ten rivals for you, because that just wouldn't happen, period. Who next? Maybe Arizona and Syracuse because of recent success? Okay, but COACHES turned those programs into what they are, and there is no tangible reason a great coach who believes in himself couldn't do the same at Illinois. Then we move into who I think are our classmates in terms of historical success. Oklahoma? Oklahoma State? Marquette? Georgetown? Villanova? NC State? Notre Dame? Cincinnati? Arkansas?

Why are those jobs better than ours, do you think (if you do think that)? We have as much money at our disposal as them, to my knowledge. Our fan base is as rabid and at LEAST as big as all of them. We are in a more stable conference with much more money than all of them except for NC State, Notre Dame and Arkansas, and I'd PERSONALLY argue that having Duke, UNC and Louisville on one side and Kentucky on the other in your conference is nothing short of a huge bltch to deal with as a new head coach trying to build a program, but semantics. Then we move down to the programs that might be lacking in tradition or aren't thought of as "basketball jobs" but might enjoy certain perks (recruiting hotbed, financial resources, maybe location) but ALSO low expectations like Florida or Texas ... I guess that is all just opinion and depends on the coach. Some coaches might love that they won't be run out of town at UT, but some might have grown up dreaming of packed houses, electric atmospheres and being the talk of the town, implying a desire for more of a "basketball environment." I see the following jobs as either clearly "above" ours or enjoying a current advantage that might make them better right now:

Kentucky
North Carolina
Kansas
UCLA
Duke
Indiana
Louisville
Arizona
Syracuse
Ohio State
Michigan State
Maryland
UConn

Of those, I don't think a coach would ever leave for a Big Ten rival (cross off IU, OSU, MSU and UMD), and I think Syracuse and Arizona are in the same class. I think we could lose a coach to a Blue Blood or UConn, personally.
 
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#illini Whitman: A lot of reports about that we've offered job to people. I can tell you definitively that is not correct.

https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/status/841778560268419072

#illini Whitman: We have a plan in place for MBB and that plan is moving forward. Confident in it moving forward.
https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/status/841778639456858113

#illini Whitman: Closing date of posting doesn't mean we'll have coach on Tuesday. can always buy more time. Don't read into that.

https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/status/841778787700346880
 
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matt1all

Chicago, IL
Was getting disappointed in you guys when I was reading about 50 shades of grey and John woodens career over lunch. But just like that you guys turn it up for the commute read home. There's no quit in you guys.


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mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
I want what's best for the program. Being strung along by unrealistic fantasies makes for an embarrassing public mess of a process that meaningfully hamstrings the next coach.

Nothing of the sort has happened, or even showed initial indications of happening. We lived through that last time, we'll know it when we see it.
 
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