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Missed it. Any way to summarize? Thx.
So, if March 20th comes and goes with no application package submitted by potential candidates (per AD's list: Marshall, Archie, Buzz, et al), does AD pick up the phone and check one last time with whomever to see if they may be interested possibly?
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
Maybe control the message the media puts out. 670 has broadcast basketball and football games for 2 or 3 years. Lovie and at the time Groce new coach going forward, should have weekly segments on that station. I haven't heard them on air for a long time. Last time being Beckman and wint.
"Submitting" the application is a formality. It's state mandated legalize. Whitman will know long before someone writes down their social security number whether they are interested or not
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
You would hope. If Whitman has to sift through resumes, then most of us on this board (myself included) are totally way off-base about his abilities.
Virginia Tech is even less a desirable location than Illinois. Geographically, its isolated from any other big town/area. Roanoke VA(about 100K population) and Johnson City, TN being the closest "big cities". And it has very few minorities outside of the university. And at least the last time I was there, which admittedly was over 10 years ago, their idea of culture seemed to be along the lines of SIU back in the day. So am I surprised that he has problems recruiting? No.
Illini34
- Champaign, IL
Maybe Serg can lock the players in the gym until they figured out what went wrong with the end of this year
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
Was at the end of the 3pm hr if you find the podcast. Pretty much Goff talked about finding ways to have more positive voices in chicago. Not just media. Bridging the gap with alumni players. Maybe not having them on staff, but working those relationship because guys like gill Bardo, deon, and dee are still influential. Negative talk behind the scenes on the next coach needs to stop.
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What ever happened to/with Dee Brown? Why the sudden departure and then NO news for all of these months? Can anyone shed some light on the situation? I heard a rumor that he's been coaching in the Chicago suburbs and has made more than one appearance in Evanston at the FAAM league games on Sundays (youth hoops program). Would love to have him join the new coach's staff
Not at the top of my list this search but I do think Dan will eventually end up as a solid P5 coach somewhere (and I have seen worse names mentioned in this thread).
RichBradIllini
- Peoria
This sounds deja vu Mike Thomasy to me.
Negatory. Bill Self was offered a job at a storied, elite program. Only a fool or someone who is completely satisfied with their situation and doesn't want the pressure that a program like that has would turn it down(e.g. Mark Few at Gonzaga).
Dee left for a reason. He had a great, cushy job here getting paid A LOT of money with an inside route to an assistant job at some point. Everyone wanted him there, the fact he left should be a big enough clue that something happened. Whatever it was, what we know is that it wasn't illegal (nothing EVER hinted with the cops), and bad enough that he had to leave.
Dee isn't coming back for awhile, most likely it's his fault. He'll go coach elsewhere, and hopefully he gets an opportunity to come back.
Lets face it the number of people who faked a resume claiming to be UK grads is far lower than Ivy League or Public Ivies.
Many accounts have said that Self was torn and might have stayed given more money or more cajoling. He knew what he had coming back in 2004-5 and what he could build at Illinois. Unfortunately, Guenther felt like his girlfriend had cheated on him and closed that door so we'll never know.
This is probably accurate. Dee was having some health issues (hip replacement), but his departure was sudden and mysterious. Presumably something happened behind the scenes. Nothing has leaked about the situation, which makes sense when you consider that Dee is an iconic figure in Champaign and still a reference point for hoop heads everywhere. It's in everyone's best interest to keep whatever led to his dismissal/departure under wraps. Hope he lands on his feet. Love that guy.
You may very well be right, but the top name in the local media is...Tom Crean.
He compared himself to coach K, saying they had about the same amount of previous coaching experience. It was a tough listen.
My IU colleague suggested that wasn't happening... much to his dismay.
I'm sure he was probably torn, but at least at that time and definitely before, there was very low turnover at storied programs like Kansas and UNC. So I'm sure he mullled it over and realized that the Kansas job was the best offer he was going to get for a while. I can't blame him for leaving, even if it was heartbreaking at the time. I think it took me about 5 years to stop saying "Bleeping Kansas". though I did get some measure of revenge in my brackets against Kansas pretty much every season....
My understanding is that situation was not nearly as simple as you make it sound. And I think there is a possibility of him returning sooner than you think.
I wonder if he'll wait on Illinois. I would probably doubt it.
I don't know, Self seemed to be interested in every option available to him. Let's not forget the Arkansas opening the year before he left. If not Kansas, which I don't see many turning down, he would have bolted for Arizona, Kentucky, or Oklahoma St.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
True, we not only dominated Chicago, but nationally! It didn't hurt that there was an NHL lockout that year too. ESPN had to cover something. And the basketball was beautiful.
I lived in Chicago in 2005 and Illinois was the biggest thing in Chicago during that Tournament run.
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