The Illinois Coaching Staff Search

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ChiefGritty

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WINTer said:
It’s a good problem to have in terms of problems but still means a new coordinator within the first few years
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Staff turnover is a fact of life whether you're winning or losing. People poaching them away is the good kind of staff turnover.

We're even talking about coaches like this because we have money, the money is all that really matters. Which frames all of my thoughts on Petersen. It's nuts that this is the guy with the resources we're operating with, but if he stinks just dump him and use the money to get someone good.

The only way you can turn competitive staff funding into a bad staff long term is a coach who doesn't care enough like Lovie. Bielema abandoned Wisconsin to get more money for assistants, not caring is not going to be an issue there.
 
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ChiefGritty

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IllinoisOKC said:
Yes yes yes idk why I put g5. My bad, but to go from hc to be a dc again? Idk just seems unlikely to me is all.
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Dan Enos left a HC job at Central Michigan to be a coordinator under Bielema.

It's more money. And having banked a couple good years at Wofford he's still in a nice position FBS HC job wise if he does well here.

Also FCS didn't play this year, I bet those guys are climbing up the walls.
 
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JJE

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Looks like 3 really good candidates. How great would it be to raid Ok. States cupboard again or possibly steal a guy from missery?
 
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IllinoisOKC

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ChiefGritty said:
Staff turnover is a fact of life whether you're winning or losing. People poaching them away is the good kind of staff turnover.

We're even talking about coaches like this because we have money, the money is all that really matters. Which frames all of my thoughts on Petersen. It's nuts that this is the guy with the resources we're operating with, but if he stinks just dump him and use the money to get someone good.

The only way you can turn competitive staff funding into a bad staff long term is a coach who doesn't care enough like Lovie. Bielema abandoned Wisconsin to get more money for assistants, not caring is not going to be an issue there.
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Didn’t think think of the fcs being off, great point.
 
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IllinoisOKC

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illini0440 said:
Average salary for fcs head coach is about 250k. We will probably pay 800k for the DC job. That would be one reason for it.
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So he left pitt as dc to become a hc at wofford and leave to be a dc at Illinois? Thats why I’m hung up on it, I’d love the hire but I find that one hard to believe. Knowles makes sense with gundy and ok st’s relationship being like a reality show every year lol
 
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217sports said:
Here’s our finalists for DC. Seems like over 800k+ will be allocated here:

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Strong trio emerges in Illinois DC search

Bret Bielema has assembled many of the key pieces of his inaugural Illinois staff, in Bielema's return to head coaching after three seasons as an NFL assistant.
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The thing that surprised me the most was that Oklahoma State's defense was ranked that highly. Every time they are on TV the score seems to be something like 42-35.
 
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illini0440

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IllinoisOKC said:
So he left pitt as dc to become a hc at wofford and leave to be a dc at Illinois? Thats why I’m hung up on it, I’d love the hire but I find that one hard to believe. Knowles makes sense with gundy and ok st’s relationship being like a reality show every year lol
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I can’t find his salary at Pitt but I’d imagine it was around 400-500k. I’m sure he got similar to that to be head coach but if he gets a 300k+ raise to come back and be a P5 DC at his age it’s not that crazy he would take it.
 
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altenberger22

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I don't know --- Wofford is just such a small time football program.

With that said: Former Wofford head BB Coach Mike Young is doing very well at Va Tech; but then again Wofford is much more of a basketball school than football.

Still think I'd rather have 29 year old Ryan Walters, and steal from Mizzou.
 
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ChiefGritty

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Illinois_2_AZ said:
The thing that surprised me the most was that Oklahoma State's defense was ranked that highly. Every time they are on TV the score seems to be something like 42-35.
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That's how the games are played in the Big XII.

What do they give up on a per play, per drive basis relative to the level of competition? That's the question.

When it was going at Duke pace, the scores were lower.
 
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illini0440

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IllinoisOKC said:
So he left pitt as dc to become a hc at wofford and leave to be a dc at Illinois? Thats why I’m hung up on it, I’d love the hire but I find that one hard to believe. Knowles makes sense with gundy and ok st’s relationship being like a reality show every year lol
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I can’t find his salary at Pitt but I’d imagine it was around 400-500k. I’m sure he got similar to that to be head coach but if he gets a 300k+ raise to come back and be a P5 DC at his age it’s not that crazy he would take it.
altenberger22 said:
I don't know --- Wofford is just such a small time football program.

With that said: Former Wofford head BB Coach Mike Young is doing very well at Va Tech; but then again Wofford is much more of a basketball school than football.

Still think I'd rather have 29 year old Ryan Walters, and steal from Mizzou.
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Yeah Walters is 34
 
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IllinoisOKC said:
So he left pitt as dc to become a hc at wofford and leave to be a dc at Illinois? Thats why I’m hung up on it, I’d love the hire but I find that one hard to believe. Knowles makes sense with gundy and ok st’s relationship being like a reality show every year lol
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P5 salaries have skyrocketed. If he’s making in the 500k range, that probably was a raise at the time.
 
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217sports said:
Here’s our finalists for DC. Seems like over 800k+ will be allocated here:

footballscoop.com

Strong trio emerges in Illinois DC search

Bret Bielema has assembled many of the key pieces of his inaugural Illinois staff, in Bielema's return to head coaching after three seasons as an NFL assistant.
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LOL. Three finalists, not one of which has been mentioned in this 46 page thread.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
Staff turnover is a fact of life whether you're winning or losing. People poaching them away is the good kind of staff turnover.

We're even talking about coaches like this because we have money, the money is all that really matters. Which frames all of my thoughts on Petersen. It's nuts that this is the guy with the resources we're operating with, but if he stinks just dump him and use the money to get someone good.

The only way you can turn competitive staff funding into a bad staff long term is a coach who doesn't care enough like Lovie. Bielema abandoned Wisconsin to get more money for assistants, not caring is not going to be an issue there.
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So back in the Mike White days when I listened to his radio show and anytime he spoke. ( Haven't done that much since) I remember when he was asked about an assistant that took another job. He had nothing but glowing praise for them and stated that we must be doing something right here and stated pretty much that's the way the game is played. Maybe coach speak but I remember being so pi$$ed at the time. Then the wheels fell off and he is just a distant memory now. I don't want to get my hopes up with the new coaches because of the past but I would love to be as excited as I was back in the day. Hopefully with solid coaches and the ability to get an occasional 4* recruit along with some solid 3's we can at least be relevant for a while. Due for some good luck sometime aren't we?
 
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ChiefGritty said:
Wofford is a good FCS program, private schools have money and it's the South, my wild guess would be more like $500k
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I have not come across a number yet but highly unlikely he is making $500k a year. Majority of the coaches in the MAC and Sun Belt make in the $400-700 range a year and they get some decent exposure.

I know basketball and football are different but Wofford lost the basketball coach to V-Tech and he wasn't making much in respect to his experience. Mike Young coached Wofford for 17 years in basketball and think was making around $160-170k by the time he left after the 2018-19 season. Conklin was/is young when he accepted the HC position at Wofford with no head coaching experience.

Be interesting to see what route IL chooses either way.....
 
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217sports said:
Here’s our finalists for DC. Seems like over 800k+ will be allocated here:

footballscoop.com

Strong trio emerges in Illinois DC search

Bret Bielema has assembled many of the key pieces of his inaugural Illinois staff, in Bielema's return to head coaching after three seasons as an NFL assistant.
footballscoop.com footballscoop.com
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They must have accidentally cut the section out where they talk about Ash and Muschamp as solid possibilities....
 
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Serious question- what am I missing with Conklin? His defenses were 56th, 106th and 65th in total team defense his 3 years at Pitt ( 2 out of the 3 were worse than us) then he goes to Wofford as HC and now we want him running our defense? Hard pass for me unless I’m missing something

Knowles or Walters would be solid hires. Knowles the safer bet but Walters is a rising coach getting HC looks and Missou obviously thinks a lot of him- neither are particularly impressive recruiters, but both seem to be very good DC’s - getting them to take a lateral move would be a win- even if it is for more money (we are clearly paying well north of $1M to get either to take a lateral move)

But neither are the Home run hire that Ash or Robinson would have been
 
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Just random thought I don't know if was mentioned yet....Wofford did not play fall ball this year and will actually start playing towards the end of February. Pretty sure they start practice around a month from now. Unless Conklin nailed the interview and IL swayed him, not sure if either side would move on this.
 
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