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Serious question- what am I missing with Conklin? His defenses were 56th, 106th and 65th in total team defense his 3 years at Pitt ( 2 out of the 3 were worse than us) then he goes to Wofford as HC and now we want him running our defense? Hard pass for me unless I’m missing something

Knowles or Walters would be solid hires. Knowles the safer bet but Walters is a rising coach getting HC looks and Missou obviously thinks a lot of him- neither are particularly impressive recruiters, but both seem to be very good DC’s - getting them to take a lateral move would be a win- even if it is for more money (we are clearly paying well north of $1M to get either to take a lateral move)

But neither are the Home run hire that Ash or Robinson would have been
Illinois football is not the destination of home run hires. If I were to choose from these 3 guys, I'd go with Conklin first, then Walters second, followed by Knowles, a distant third. With BB's involvement on D, I prefer a younger, high energy guy for the job.
 
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ChiefGritty

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Serious question- what am I missing with Conklin? His defenses were 56th, 106th and 65th in total team defense his 3 years at Pitt
Throw raw yardage numbers in the garbage.

Per SP+ (which adjusts for tempo, opponent quality, and eliminates garbage time):

2015: 35th
2016: 75th
2017: 48th

Maybe not superstar numbers, but solid.

Just random thought I don't know if was mentioned yet....Wofford did not play fall ball this year and will actually start playing towards the end of February.

There's a good chance they won't. Which may play into Conklin's thinking.
 
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JJE

Bethalto, IL
here we go batman GIF
 
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Who's your pick?

To me, I think Knowles and Conklin are better, more proven guys, so I'd choose one of them. But I think BB will take Walters because he's younger, moldable, probably more open to gameplanning in tandem with the HC.
 
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ChiefGritty

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Who's your pick?

To me, I think Knowles and Conklin are better, more proven guys, so I'd choose one of them. But I think BB will take Walters because he's younger, moldable, probably more open to gameplanning in tandem with the HC.
If I could pick, it would be Knowles. But he has the least reason to want to leave.

My prediction is Conklin, just because we have the biggest raise to offer him.

If it's Walters I bet it's a multi-year deal, because he's currently making $900k at Mizzou.
 
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Serious question- what am I missing with Conklin? His defenses were 56th, 106th and 65th in total team defense his 3 years at Pitt ( 2 out of the 3 were worse than us) then he goes to Wofford as HC and now we want him running our defense? Hard pass for me unless I’m missing something

Knowles or Walters would be solid hires. Knowles the safer bet but Walters is a rising coach getting HC looks and Missou obviously thinks a lot of him- neither are particularly impressive recruiters, but both seem to be very good DC’s - getting them to take a lateral move would be a win- even if it is for more money (we are clearly paying well north of $1M to get either to take a lateral move)

But neither are the Home run hire that Ash or Robinson would have been
I have no horse in this field if it is between these 3 guys. JMO but I do think Conklin is a good coach.

Might be at Wofford the last 2 years but also won/shared conference crown both years.

Few team stats for 2018 and 2019 since he became the head coach which I think fit perfectly with the philosophy of Bielema

2018 Wofford led the conference in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense, passing defense and rushing offense.

2019 Wofford led the conference in rushing defense, rushing offense, total defense, sacks and sacks allowed.

Conklin is only 41, will be 42 in June. It looks like he has produced at every stop. I also remember him beating eventual National Champ Clemson in 2016 as only loss and in 2017 beat #2 Miami that was 10-0 before finishing 10-3. He has more upside and shown more results than any DC Lovie had on his staff including himself during the tenure at Illinois.
 
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If I could pick, it would be Knowles. But he has the least reason to want to leave.

My prediction is Conklin, just because we have the biggest raise to offer him.

If it's Walters I bet it's a multi-year deal, because he's currently making $900k at Mizzou.
Yeah I didn't realize Walters already made 900/year. Him and Knowles would require the most, definitely 1 mil+ and multiyear contracts. Conklin would make the most sense money-wise. Walters is interesting because you're still not completely sure that he's actually a good DC. Barry Odom is one of the best defensive guys in the country and he had a strong say in the defense when he was HC. Walters only has this past year as experience without Odom and it's very difficult to make much out of what he did.
 
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Look at the offenses Walters faced compared to anyone you can name. I don’t get some people.
 
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ChiefGritty

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Oh boy here is some sleuthing for you.

Conklin's DC at Wofford is a young guy named Sam Siefkes, who got started in coaching as the DB coach at DIII UW-LaCrosse, and managed to parlay that into an off-field role at Florida International, where he met up with Conklin.

Siefkes' AD at LaCrosse was Josh Whitman, and he got the gig at FIU to fill out Ron Turner's initial staff there.

Conklin also got his first taste of big time football in 2012 as the Safeties coach at Tennessee under Derek Dooley, who also connects Tony Petersen to Bielema.

This profession is a tiny little fishbowl when you start digging.
 
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Look at the offenses Walters faced compared to anyone you can name. I don’t get some people.
lol I would still be very happy with the hire. I'm just saying the other guys have an established track record of being good defensive coaches. Walters is 34, he's obviously going to be light on experience. Strategically it would make sense bringing in a young guy that has experience recruiting St. Louis and is very highly thought of in the coaching profession.
 
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Also had to have a backup QB play safety for a game lol
Haha. Had no idea. I was not trying to be negative about him, just pointing out that he would potentially be the most expensive guy, and also the least experienced. Seems like he's a rising star.

Hell, the fact that we are looking at poaching either sitting P5 DCs or a lower level HC with P5 DC experience speaks volumes.
 
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Kramer

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Oh boy here is some sleuthing for you.

Conklin's DC at Wofford is a young guy named Sam Siefkes, who got started in coaching as the DB coach at DIII UW-LaCrosse, and managed to parlay that into an off-field role at Florida International, where he met up with Conklin.

Siefkes' AD at LaCrosse was Josh Whitman, and he got the gig at FIU to fill out Ron Turner's initial staff there.

Conklin also got his first taste of big time football in 2012 as the Safeties coach at Tennessee under Derek Dooley, who also connects Tony Petersen to Bielema.

This profession is a tiny little fishbowl when you start digging.
Good work Chief!
 
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I think we went at Walters the hardest, so I'm picking him, but you never know who said no and who said yes. Let's check the Miznoz forums!
*edit* The Mizzers seem to think their HC is moving on from Walters, or at the very least finding a good way for Walters to bow out. Their forums are crazier than ours so grain of salt. I'm sticking with Walters.
 
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Per SP+ (which adjusts for tempo, opponent quality, and eliminates garbage time):

2015: 35th
2016: 75th
2017: 48th

Maybe not superstar numbers, but solid.
That's fair - and obviously Conklin is qualified for the position as a DC in a P5 conference before, solid is the best word to describe it. But I take his stats at Wofford with a grain of salt any P5 DC should be able to go to Wofford and be really good on defense. It's not an exciting hire IMHO

I'm pulling for Walters given:
1) He's currently an SEC DC at age 34 that has had success in the SEC and a rising coach in the profession that has progressed quickly.
2) We need someone that can gameplan a defense with lesser talent than he'll be playing against - he faces that almost every game in the SEC
3) He has a lot of upside - he should be able to grow under BB and get better than when he arrives

If he does well, he'll leave for a HC job in a few years, but that's what we want to happen. At this point in our rebuilding effort we need high talent coaches that will make everyone better around them, attract talent and get the program competitive again. When they leave for a bigger job we will be able to attract an even brighter star in the coaching ranks because of it
 
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Walters is 34, he's obviously going to be light on experience.
In fairness, Walters has 5 years of experience as DC/co-DC in the SEC
in comparison Conklin only has 3 years of experience as a DC in a P5 conference
 
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