A lot of this points back to why Lovie was fired
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Because we are going to get the most experiences coach from the MAC who doesn't understand Illinois Athletics and kids will have no desire to want to play for...Might as well become a BAMA fan, or someone with some excitement
Guys we all Love what Nate did as a player but he is probably 8-10 years away from being ready to be a head coach.
And Tiller was quite successful with it at PU
I dunno. Point taken on the wind in the stadium, though Lubbock, TX is even more windy than Champaign. And we certainly need a solid running game. However, a pass-heavy attack worked fairly well for Mike White and John Mackovic. (And for the careers of Dave Wilson, Tony Eason, Jack Trudeau and Jeff George in the span of only 10 seasons.)
The other thing is that people assume Monken wouldn't adjust his philosophy at all. He has every appearance of being an excellent all around coach, so I have to assume he would be capable of modifying his offensive philosophy to match his circumstances
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I think we need to chill on the Nate talk. If he gets an OC job this year, it would be a huge jump, and we're here talking about him leading a big ten program. He literally just turned 30 a month ago. He has 5 years of experience in coaching and a couple of those years were non-recruiting roles. Yes, he bleeds O & B and is filled with integrity and a great man, but let him develop. I'd love for him to be a part of the next staff here, and I'm sure the next coach is aware of him and will entertain the idea, but he's not ready to be HC. In all honesty, it might even be better for him, professionally, to stay with Campbell instead of coming back to UI. Campbell is poised to take over a blue blood in the next couple years, and he may lose his OC in that timeframe. Continuing to work with Campbell and some combo of moving on to a blue blood and/or becoming Campbell's OC would be about the best possible thing to happen to Nate coaching wise. For the record, I have no idea if he would even be the leading candidate to hypothetically become Campbell's OC, but you can't dismiss that Nate is in about as good a situation as he could find.
Look around Twitter and other social media venues. Many coaches support and respond on a regular basis about the intelligence and maturity beyond his age from all over the midwest. He is starting to become household name throughout and the name is spreading. Someone will offer him and we will be wishing it was us.
Give him solid OC/DC and let him fly. Tired of the old grumpy Gus that can't connect with anybody. Or, we need that defense guy...well that's boring as heck too. Ask any kid in America, don't even really care if they are a defensive player what they would rather see. a game 51 - 47, or 6-3. Of course, if you are us, it's usually 51-3 with our defensive minded coach.
Let's catch up with modern times and get some excitement back into the program.
altenberger22
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Might be time for a poll. Could be either:
-- Whom we think it will be
-- Whom we want it to be
And then Whitman will shock us with someone off the charts.
-- Whom we think it will be
-- Whom we want it to be
And then Whitman will shock us with someone off the charts.
Being heralded on twitter doesn't make you ready to lead a P5 football team. Yes Nate isa rising star and will be a great HC someday but it will be at LEAST 5 years before a P5 team thinks about hiring him as a head coach. Bringing him hear now is setting him up to fail, who is he going to bring in as his coordinators? He doesn't have a deep list of connections to pull from in terms of building a staff.
I am assuming that you are joking.
People get really hung up on the triple option for some reason. I don't get it and I feel like this crowd would be silent if we were winning.
Winning football games makes everything seem so much better, and Monken has won games while we haven't.
If there's a concern about Monken's Army record it's the same team playing Michigan close and getting blown out by Hawaii(they were down last year but still).
Regularly scheduled conference opponents will be a bit of a change from what Monken is used to too.
Winning football games makes everything seem so much better, and Monken has won games while we haven't.
If there's a concern about Monken's Army record it's the same team playing Michigan close and getting blown out by Hawaii(they were down last year but still).
Regularly scheduled conference opponents will be a bit of a change from what Monken is used to too.
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He destroyed what could have been a great offense.
TBH, I just want some consecutive 8 win seasons and then we can go from there.
illinihawk16
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Honestly, I'll take 7 win seasons if it's consistent.
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Lol...good catch...I got my codes mixed up!! (London is YXU! oops!
But I stand by my London, Ontario talent eval! I've been on campus at UCLA...it's also insane.....but it's also SoCal and easily explained. As is Knoxville, Austin, Tempe, Miami...etc..etc....huge campuses with 20,000+ college coeds in the south. London has 3 or 4 different small schools and defies logic.
Also, Lance Leipold.
As JW said, it will be quick and confidential. I think we are starting to learn that quickly around here. If you follow Bball recruiting, the so called insiders, are about 0 - for the year over there but they know everything from the color of the kids 2nd grade class color shirt on picture day to his great-great grandmothers favorite meal and family recipes.
Brad has gone underground as well, some pretty loose lips with out there, which is giving our opponents whether on the field/court or recruiting room an advantage.
Unless you are AD, HC, Asst. Coach, Kent Brown, or someone in that level, I no longer listen to insiders, but the guessing game and wishing game can be fun.
Brad has gone underground as well, some pretty loose lips with out there, which is giving our opponents whether on the field/court or recruiting room an advantage.
Unless you are AD, HC, Asst. Coach, Kent Brown, or someone in that level, I no longer listen to insiders, but the guessing game and wishing game can be fun.
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I'm trying to figure out the hate for Bielema. Is it simply because he's perceived as a jerk or is there some documented instances out there? I honestly don't know. Do his coaches or players think he's a jerk? If not, I think he could win here.
I think that if you can honestly show a kid how you will take advantage of his strengths, can get kids in for visits (once the virus is over) and no longer have to show him the dungeon of doom, that we might be able to get kids interested.
Ransom Stoddard
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29-34 at Arkansas, and he's a jerk.
Thats 12 more wins than Lovie, and he can be an A-hole too, trust me.
The tail end of the Blackman years was basically .500%.
It wasn't a triple option; it was more pro-style with some QB option mixed in. He actually passed the ball more than most offenses did back then
Plus he's involved in litigation w/ The Razorback Foundation surrounding his departure. That'll get settled at some point, but do you really want your new coach needing to devote some amount of time to legal matters from the last head coaching job he had? I'd pass on that, if I were JW.
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Thanks. I was aware of his less-than-stellar record at Arkansas, but his success at Wisconsin and experience in the B1G was just so hard for me to overlook. I was not aware of the legal issues. With regards to strictly football, you can do a lot worse than Bielema. Not saying he's my top choice, I just didn't understand the hate. Thanks again.
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