Karaoke?I'm singing out for the night! See y'all tomorrow. Go enjoy your Friday peeps!
Karaoke?I'm singing out for the night! See y'all tomorrow. Go enjoy your Friday peeps!
I'm most concerned if spring football is canceled and he loses that valuable time in what appears to be his strength: coaching. Would be huge if he could "coach them up" to a bowl in the first year and show recruits right away that he can win at this level.It's scary to think about what our roster will look like if the next 18 months or so don't go well. And it is definitely true that Leipold does not on the surface inspire confidence in that regard.
And as I mentioned yesterday, the specific 18 months we're talking about is a totally new reality for college football.
It's possible, arguable, that just trying to fill up a class of 25 high quality high school players would be a self-defeating fool's errand, even if they're good. It's also possible that all of this other stuff is a red herring and going out and getting the best 25 HS guys is the only sensible thing to do. It's really hard to tell, this is totally unprecedented in the history of the sport.
Sure somebody beat me to it but I think you’re thinking about the guy Tom Allen replaced who was an Offensive Coordinator at OU. Allen was an internal promotion.In the last 20 years, only 3 P5 Coordinators have been hired as Big 10 head coaches... Tom Allen (Oklahoma DC) at Indiana, Chris Ash (OSU DC) at Rutgers, and Mike Locksley (OC Alabama) at Maryland. EDIT - That were not internal promotions.
Bo Pelini (LSU DC) to Nebraska, Ralph Friedgen (GA Tech OC) to Maryland and Greg Schiano (Miami, FL DC) to Rutgers (the first time) all fit in that timeline but were before those schools were in the Big 10. Pelini had previously been DC at Nebraska. Friedgen was an alum of Maryland.
There was also one case in the last 20 years of an NFL coordinator becoming Big 10 head coach - Bill O'Brien (Patriots OC) to Penn State. Kirk Farentz (Ravens OC) to Iowa falls just outside my 20 year time period.
There were some of those games, sure.So, question regarding LL’s success at UW Whitewater. There was a comment about UWWW and a handful of other DIII programs being more FCS like in their structure and thus the jump from one of these programs to DI isn’t as great as would appear (too lazy to dig out the comment).
My question is does this fact take away from LL’s success at that level. In other words, were 90% of his games a Globetrotters vs. Generals type of matchup? Just curious as I don’t know much about these types of programs.
Yeah not saying him winning 3,7,8,7 and only 4 games his final year is why they still suck but I believe since they spent so much on bb(4.25 mil for 6 years) and then they made an even worse hire in morris (3.5 mil for 6 yrs)who wasnt all great at smu(14-23) hasn’t helped. It was bad for both sides but yes they shouldn’t be as bad as they are i agree.The perception of their fanbase shouldn't reflect the realities of the position. Arkansas is 82-84 (.493) in conference games since joining the SEC but before Bielema took over.
Bielema takes over and he goes 11-29 (.275) in the SEC. Since he was fired, they've gone 7-27 (.205). It's fair to say that things dramatically shifted for their program after Petrino. That said, the program used to be a solid college football team. Not great, but maybe like a poor man's Iowa? They had been ranked at least once during 11 of the past 15 seasons before Bielema showed up (some of those years were duds like being pre-season #10 for John L's one interim season). I kinda get why their fans would think higher of the program than the current national perception.
How did the Illini recruit and sign Josh Kreutz if they never set foot in Loyola for the past 2 years?I don't know about a worse run, but I agree that Lovie is leaving this program in a better state than Beckman did. Beckman left the program with non-B1G type players and no real pipeline. Lovie definitely got some better talent in (enough to start winning day 1...not sure). However, the pipeline/relationships might be worse off. Listened to Tay & Piper's show the other day with the Loyola coach on and he said that Illinois did not step foot in his building once..ONCE in two years?!! They just gave up trying to recruit there I guess.
As much as I like Nate, he wasn't very accurate in the passing game. We need a QB coach who can help the QBs with their mechanics, placement of the ball, and footwork.We will see. Still not impressed with BB.
Just to play hypothetical. What if LL gets Nate as QB coach and J for LB coach?
Lovie probably went straight to his dad for everything related to the recruitmentHow did the Illini recruit and sign Josh Kreutz if they never set foot in Loyola for the past 2 years?
Whether or not this is sarcastic it got me thinking. I wonder if the backup QB type player generally makes good coaches because they lacked the natural talent required of starter, but were able to train well enough to become a backup, and therefore tend well towards training others.As much as I like Nate, he wasn't very accurate in the passing game. We need a QB coach who can help the QBs with their mechanics, placement of the ball, and footwork.
I do like the suggestion of JL as an LB coaching assistance.
I'm singing out for the night! See y'all tomorrow. Go enjoy your Friday peeps!
How well did your Corolla recruit?I bought a new Corolla once. I got 35 mpg and it never broke down in seven years, not even once. Also, I was already bored driving it on the way home from the dealer. I'm not saying Lance Leipold is a Corolla. Well, I guess I sort of am saying that.
How well did your Corolla recruit?
Here's a name I hadn't thought of until now that would potentially get me excited - Mark Helfrich.I feel like jw pulls his coaches out of left field. Who are your favorite random coaches he could pull? Herman? Stoops? Clawson?
Lovie coached his Dad?How did the Illini recruit and sign Josh Kreutz if they never set foot in Loyola for the past 2 years?
Just to be clear, they have to enter the portal, before we start the recruiting, right? At least, within the rules? I know the SEC motto, you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.Just so everyone is on the same page, here is the situation in the current, active, already formally approved rules:
Illinois (and every other school) can go out this offseason and recruit literally any player in college football, have them transfer without having to sit a year, and bring them in with the same eligibility they started this season with, up to a limit that the latest guidance seems clear is well above 85 at least for next year and possibly longer than that.
The flipside of course is that every single one of our players may freely transfer on the same basis as well. Isaiah Williams can be immediately eligible as a redshirt freshman QB at any program in the country for the 2021 season.
It is absolutely possible that this will prove to be less dramatic than what it sounds like. It is also possible that we're about to hold one of those Madden franchise drafts for the entirety of college football, to be repeated annually (they are going to vote on giving every incoming NCAA player one free transfer, and the scuttlebutt is that it will probably pass).
What does it mean to be a coaching staff that can consistently field a talented roster in that radically changed reality? I have absolutely no idea.
Technically in some sense yeah, I don't really know what the rules are against tampering though. I can't recall that really being made an issue before.Just to be clear, they have to enter the portal, before we start the recruiting, right? At least, within the rules? I know the SEC motto, you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
... His dad is OlinLovie coached his Dad?
Like the greek god olin?... His dad is Olin
Elliot wants and is interviewing for auburnI wasn't looking for an amazing hire. To be honest, I was hoping for a P5 Coordinator that has proven they can gameplan, coach, develop and recruit. This had me leaning toward Elliot/Bates combo or Leonhard/Inoke combo. Basically more of a younger move and someone hungry to create their own success as a HC. Thought new facilities and a loyal AD may help those guys grow and get established. LL just doesn't really give me that feeling, just my opinion and those are like buttholes sometimes and do stink . But the only thing I can look at with LL and staff, is that they seem capable of developing the talent they do bring in to succeed, unlike Lovie. I dunno, just kind of disappointed is all. I am probably too old school. I will be watching tonight though!
Ok. What about a RB coach? I'm just trying to get his recruiting on staff.As much as I like Nate, he wasn't very accurate in the passing game. We need a QB coach who can help the QBs with their mechanics, placement of the ball, and footwork.
Huh, I always just assumed Lovie's dad was Pat Fitzgerald.... His dad is Olin
If we were to pay market for someone, he is the exception I’d do it forThe financials are just completely different, even eliminating the buyout, which I'm gonna assume isn't 15 mil when Herman is the one making the call, but I don't know the contract details.
Underwood was underpaid at OSU. Herman makes 6/year at Texas. I would be very hard to pull him away without matching that number at the very least.
Well on that note...I'm singing out for the night! See y'all tomorrow. Go enjoy your Friday peeps!