Then we can start a new thread.TSJ's legal team to call Big Jack to the stand...
Then we can start a new thread.TSJ's legal team to call Big Jack to the stand...
TSJ's legal team to call Big Jack to the stand...
Lawyers of Loyalty, wouldn't this be illegal and possibly cause for a mistrial? My understanding is that the prosecution must hand over anything they have in a reasonable time after receiving it so the accused's legal team can mount an adequate defense.Potentially. The affidavit that was posted was signed on October 4th and the official charging documents were filed December 5th. Don't know if any what evidence the DA got between those dates.
I don't think we are "losing out on info". Nothing new for them to tell us. Lville said he'd be back when there was anything new to report.A majority of us on here appreciate all the info you guys provide. We know you guys don't have to share anything, but choose to anyway. It just sucks when we lose out on potential info because of trolls or bigotry. Thank you for your info
Also curious what the lawyers say, but the prosecution has stricter requirements for disclosing evidence that could support the defense than they do in disclosing things relevant to their prosecution strategy. I won't claim to know the details of that though.Lawyers of Loyalty, wouldn't this be illegal and possibly cause for a mistrial? My understanding is that the prosecution must hand over anything they have in a reasonable time after receiving it so the accused's legal team can mount an adequate defense.
No Perry Mason moments in an actual courtroom, right?
can't AI do one for us now?I can't wait for the trial when they do a reinactment.
"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit."
Yeah, in this instance. It's happened before and I'm sure that it'll happen again. There will always be trollsI don't think we are "losing out on info". Nothing new for them to tell us.
Thank you Loyalty...I did indeed learn something today.
I’ve been on this board for 13 years and just because someone posts a lot doesn’t mean it contains any value.The number of posters commenting in these TSJ threads that I haven't seen commenting on basketball or football.....or other sports related threads.
No doubt during commercial breaks of Real Housewives, Keeping up with the Khardasiwhatevers, Jersey Shore, Vanderpump Rules, and Catfish.
I'm now a dinosaur, but no matter how much time has passed it's still a bunch of college kids (and apparently a few townies) out partying on the weekend at a campus bar. So, I don't think much has changed either.Clubs must have changed a quite a bit since my partying days. Not saying crazy stuff never happened, but frequently?
I'm a civil lawyer, but my understanding is the Defense can make a demand for the Prosecution to turn over evidence. I don't know if that demand has been made in TSJ's case or if the Prosecution has turned anything over yet. Also, even without a demand, the Prosecution is required to turn over any material evidence that is favorable to the Defense. I'm not sure of the exact timing of when it has to be turned over, but it is certainly before trial.Also curious what the lawyers say, but the prosecution has stricter requirements for disclosing evidence that could support the defense than they do in disclosing things relevant to their prosecution strategy. I won't claim to know the details of that though.
You shouldn't.If I'm on a jury, the lack of effort by police in finding/talking to other people who were at the bar, especially a specific individual identified by accuser as being near the alleged incident, communicates to me that LPD had little interest in discovering the truth of what occurred that night. It's as if they didn't want to know. How could I trust the investigation given this?
I’ve been on this board for 13 years and just because someone posts a lot doesn’t mean it contains any value.
My initials are D.K. I used to hear this a lot when I was younger until I grew bigger than most of them.Dr. Decay...D.D.S.?
Unfortunately, filing just on PC was a common occurrence across regimes of many different States' Attorneys where I practiced. Even led to many calling us Makeup County.LMAO I make no excuse for conflating the two as I now practice labor law and use preponderance of the evidence as the standard in most of my disciplinary and contractually based arbitrations. They're closer together than reasonable suspicion and beyond a reasonable doubt, but as I mentioned earlier, my previous office only charged when we could prove BRD at the time of charging anyway, so I never skated by on just PC.
Not at all. A preliminary hasn't even occurred and a trial is no where in sight. The prosecution is afforded more time to hand over discovery. It cab be handed over in piecemeal over a series of status hearings. Those items can be inclusive of things like the surveillance footage, hospital records, cell phone forensics, etc. It's actually a tactic used in many jurisdictions in order to bring about more angst and anxiety in defendents whether or not they're out on bond and cause them to plea.Lawyers of Loyalty, wouldn't this be illegal and possibly cause for a mistrial? My understanding is that the prosecution must hand over anything they have in a reasonable time after receiving it so the accused's legal team can mount an adequate defense.
No Perry Mason moments in an actual courtroom, right?
90 days from arraignment to prelim is asinine. We have a county population close to that of Douglas County and had no difficulty in bringing cases to prelim within 2 weeks of arraignment.A few thoughts I haven’t seen mentioned:
1. Judge Lawless almost certainly wont rule on the TRO on Friday. She will hear argument from both sides and then likely issue a written ruling next week. I’m just a lawyer on this forum, but I would be shocked if she granted the TRO, it’s a huge hurdle.
2. I’ve read the entire complaint and all exhibits as well as TSJ’s letter written after the panel upheld the suspenation. Here is my concern: no where does TSJ give his side of the story. He just says “I was there, with ___ people, and I am innocent.” On one hand, his lawyers have incentives to say as little as possible. On the other hand they are responding to direct allegations that he fingered her without consent. What I expected to see was him saying “I did not touch the woman” or “I kissed or only touched her over her clothes.” I really did think TSJ was “innocent“ leading up to his complaint filed with the court. But now that I’ve read it, I’m concerned that the most favorable situation here now is that he grabbed her butt under her skirt (which is the act leading to the lesser misdemeanor battery). He can’t exactly admit to doing that or the public would excute him (never mind his college career being over).
3. Did anyone else catch that TSJ’s complaint says the preliminary hearing wont be held for about 90 days? The initial hearing on the 18th will just be a read of the charge where TSJ pleads not guilty. Then we will wait 90 days for the hearing where the judge determines if there is probable cause to proceed.
All in all, I have little hope (legally) that this goes away before the end of the season.
I don't practice criminal law in Kansas but according to their criminal pro statute, I don't think they have an obligation to turn over evidence before a criminal case is filed and even then its upon request by the defense. If exculpatory evidence comes to prosecutors attention while criminal case is going on I think there is an obligation to turn that over.Lawyers of Loyalty, wouldn't this be illegal and possibly cause for a mistrial? My understanding is that the prosecution must hand over anything they have in a reasonable time after receiving it so the accused's legal team can mount an adequate defense.
No Perry Mason moments in an actual courtroom, right?
Buy stock in Dell, Trex, and Open. Don’t forget CRWD, Dash, DHI, intel, NOW, MCK, CRM, and name your firstborn after me if you buy TMC and wait a couple years to see how that turns out.I’ve been on this board for 13 years and just because someone posts a lot doesn’t mean it contains any value.
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I would argue not enough information. Continue @Big Jack. What happened next?Too much information
His lawyer said that terrence had no interaction with the accuser at any point. What more do you want him to say?A few thoughts I haven’t seen mentioned:
1. Judge Lawless almost certainly wont rule on the TRO on Friday. She will hear argument from both sides and then likely issue a written ruling next week. I’m just a lawyer on this forum, but I would be shocked if she granted the TRO, it’s a huge hurdle.
2. I’ve read the entire complaint and all exhibits as well as TSJ’s letter written after the panel upheld the suspenation. Here is my concern: no where does TSJ give his side of the story. He just says “I was there, with ___ people, and I am innocent.” On one hand, his lawyers have incentives to say as little as possible. On the other hand they are responding to direct allegations that he fingered her without consent. What I expected to see was him saying “I did not touch the woman” or “I kissed or only touched her over her clothes.” I really did think TSJ was “innocent“ leading up to his complaint filed with the court. But now that I’ve read it, I’m concerned that the most favorable situation here now is that he grabbed her butt under her skirt (which is the act leading to the lesser misdemeanor battery). He can’t exactly admit to doing that or the public would excute him (never mind his college career being over).
3. Did anyone else catch that TSJ’s complaint says the preliminary hearing wont be held for about 90 days? The initial hearing on the 18th will just be a read of the charge where TSJ pleads not guilty. Then we will wait 90 days for the hearing where the judge determines if there is probable cause to proceed.
All in all, I have little hope (legally) that this goes away before the end of the season.
I went to the doctor and all he did was suck blood from my neck. Don't go see Dr. Acula.My wife has had two doctors with great names……Dr. Dye and Dr. Parrish!!! Can’t make this up, folks!
Hey man! Happy wife, happy life am I…. Ok, yeah I’m suckered into wanting to know what happens with Tom and Tom. It’s a dark, sick, and addicting world. I’m optimistic I will stop one day though!The number of posters commenting in these TSJ threads that I haven't seen commenting on basketball or football.....or other sports related threads.
No doubt during commercial breaks of Real Housewives, Keeping up with the Khardasiwhatevers, Jersey Shore, Vanderpump Rules, and Catfish.