ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
They don't either, that's the hold up at the moment.If the concern is them moving to B12, then I retract my opinion because I don’t know enough to compare PAC vs B12 membership.
They don't either, that's the hold up at the moment.If the concern is them moving to B12, then I retract my opinion because I don’t know enough to compare PAC vs B12 membership.
It ain’t just Saturday night lemme tell you. We have basketball practice at 6 am and a lot of kids still don’t go to sleep until like 3 am on a regular basis. Seriously.I get that 10:30 pm start times aren't ideal but what time exactly do you think high school kids go to bed on a Saturday night?
The sleep schedules of some of my students would make you pull your hair out, honestly.It ain’t just Saturday night lemme tell you. We have basketball practice at 6 am and a lot of kids still don’t go to sleep until like 3 am on a regular basis. Seriously.
May I ask why? In your own words, from your own perspective.Personally, I would like to see B1G go to at least 20x teams
So true. My office manager's 14 yo didn't go to sleep last night. The teen was burning up the phone with dumb texts this morning. When she finally had enough she called and told her teen to go to bed. I chuckled but not very loudly.The sleep schedules of some of my students would make you pull your hair out, honestly.
I'm not Shief, but I'll give my perspective on why I'd enjoy 20 or more teams.May I ask why? In your own words, from your own perspective.
A lot of my students have good reasons (work, helping with the family, etc.) but it still makes me want to scream. Instead I just warm up the speech on time management and call it a daySo true. My office manager's 14 yo didn't go to sleep last night. The teen was burning up the phone with dumb texts this morning. When she finally had enough she called and told her teen to go to bed. I chuckled but not very loudly.
Gritty, I probably should have said that I have a feeling that B1G will likely go to 20x teams in the near future to help balance out USC and UCLA. I cannot put my finger on a specific reason but I have a gut feeling that Kevin Warren and B1G is not done yet.May I ask why? In your own words, from your own perspective.
Will we be B2G if we have 20 teams?Gritty, I probably should have said that I have a feeling that B1G will likely go to 20x teams in the near future to help balance out USC and UCLA. I cannot put my finger on a specific reason but I have a gut feeling that Kevin Warren and B1G is not done yet.
If B1G goes to 20x, I see the candidates being Washington, Oregon, Stanford, and Notre Dame/Cal-Berkley. Mirroring KW's comments earlier today, I think that each school can bring something to the table athletically, academically, geographically, and media market wise.
To be clear, ND is the only potential addition that would increase the per-school distribution from the TV contract. And any geographic "partners" for USC and UCLA would only add to the travel problems for the current schools, aka the ones making the decision.Wanted to make this a separate thought from my above comment to say what I think candidate schools bring monetary value and other benefits.
Notre Dame (17) - national presence, money gain, strong football and other sports, rival with existing B1G schools (Mich., Purdue, USC, Mich. St.) - not AAU but B1G would probably make exception here
Oregon (17/18) & Washington (18/19) - regional partners for USC & UCLA, money gain, strong football and other sports, AAU schools
Stanford (19/20) - regional partner for USC & UCLA, likely money gain, AAU/EXCELLENT school, STRONG olympic sports, rival for ND & PAC schools
Cal (20/21)- regional partner for USC & UCLA, money gain (?). AAU/GREAT school, rival with Stanford
Colorado (21/22) - bridge school between PAC and B1G, good school, access to Denver market, money gain (?), AAU school
Kansas (22/23/24) - bridge between B1G and western schools, historic basketball addition, not money drag (?), AAU school
Virginia (22/23/24) - rival for Maryland, AAU school, money gain (?)
North Carolina (22/23/24) - strong football, historic basketball, money gain (?), AAU school
Duke (22/23/24) - historic basketball, AAU school
You are likely correct Gritty, time will tell.To be clear, ND is the only potential addition that would increase the per-school distribution from the TV contract. And any geographic "partners" for USC and UCLA would only add to the travel problems for the current schools, aka the ones making the decision.
Unless ND jumps (which I don't think they will), I feel pretty certain this is it.
Just gonna bookmark this for later.Unless ND jumps (which I don't think they will), I feel pretty certain this is it.
ND will not increase the per school distribution either. They’re more valuable as an independent, and as an independent they are worth less than the current school distribution.To be clear, ND is the only potential addition that would increase the per-school distribution from the TV contract. And any geographic "partners" for USC and UCLA would only add to the travel problems for the current schools, aka the ones making the decision.
Unless ND jumps (which I don't think they will), I feel pretty certain this is it.
B$GWill we be B2G if we have 20 teams?
Gotta be 2 Big 2 Ten, right?Will we be B2G if we have 20 teams?
That's not a totally ridiculous argument. Not least of which because a B1G TV contract already includes various home games against ND. But I do think ND moves the needle at the end of the day. That just adds so many high-value matchups to the package.ND will not increase the per school distribution either. They’re more valuable as an independent, and as an independent they are worth less than the current school distribution.
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It is certainly a valid concern. I don't know how the university values the non-revenue sports (presumably everything but MBB and Football) but it would be a big change in the landscape of college athletics to trim back that far. As ChiefGritty suggests it may not be that much of a leap for some. The possibilities are endless and either very concerning or very exciting depending on your perspective on college sports.If you look at massive college sports stars like Tim Tebow or Tyler Hansbrough their face was everywhere and they brought in a lot of money. But instead of paying them any of the money they helped earn, the schools used it to subsidize hundreds of other athletes in other sports. If that was unfair, even with NIL, the athletes are still the ones who make the coaches and everyone else rich.
The point with bringing up title IX is to ask what it would take for one school to decide to stop subsidizing non-revenue sports altogether to funnel everything to football and/or men's basketball?
It is a little wacky if the best way to make yourself better is to ask your donors to give their money to someone else instead of to you.
If we get a system where each player has 5 limited edition jerseys that cost 100K each and the schools can "guarantee" payment to recruits from sales through boosters who is harmed? The rich boosters can collect these just like coins or stamps and brag to their friends about how they support the team.