Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
Cromulently spoken.A noble spirit emB1GGens the smallest man.
Cromulently spoken.A noble spirit emB1GGens the smallest man.
Just watched a YouTube video from CBS Sports saying that B1G is currently looking at Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington as expansion candidates. CBS also says that B1G is requesting an additional 250 million from media partners if these schools are added to the conference. Interesting stuff if true.
Just watched a YouTube video from CBS Sports saying that B1G is currently looking at Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington as expansion candidates. CBS also says that B1G is requesting an additional 250 million from media partners if these schools are added to the conference. Interesting stuff if true.
just need to addAdd Notre Dame, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida State. Scrap the college football playoff and play the SEC champ in the Rose Bowl each year.
I'm still hanging in there.just need to add
the reports of Wally’s death were premature
Yet still accurate somehow. RIP Wally.just need to add
the reports of Wally’s death were premature
Maybe I'll have to become Liberty Valence. Oh, wait, he's dead, too.Yet still accurate somehow. RIP Wally.
There’s no business case for adding Stanford and Cal. There’s probably a business case for affirmatively disbanding the PAC-12 entirely by adding Stanford and Cal in addition to Oregon and Washington and thereby sending Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona schools scrambling to the Big 12 (which it sounds like they might do that anyway).One way to look at it is that it's better to dilute your own pool than increase someone else's. Not sure I agree with that in this specific situation, but keeping assets out of your competition's portfolio is considered "winning" by many.
I'll take a pass on all the other questions but # 4, is the ACC safe? Yes. All the schools swallowed the grant of rights poison pill. They are stuck until 2036 unless the league as a whole merged with another conference.After one month of the newest round of conference cannibalism, I have some questions:
1. Do we really believe the SEC is done with expansion?
2. What will happen to the Rose Bowl? B1G Champ USC playing PAC Champ Washington in the Rose Bowl is a big 'ole meh for me.
3. If Stanford agrees to join the B1G, will that pry ND loose to join the B1G?
4. The B1G seems to want to expand west. SEC says its done with expansion. Is the ACC safe?
5. Does the Big 12 really have enough muscle to pry away PAC teams?
6. Is this really good for college football?
1. No, but the schools that make the most sense for them are temporarily frozen by the ACC grant of rights. There are some politics though, South Carolina doesn't want Clemson, Florida doesn't want FSU or Miami, it's slightly complicated. They probably don't want any Pac 12 schools because they don't think they're good enough at football to deserve entry, even Oregon. Different mindset.After one month of the newest round of conference cannibalism, I have some questions:
1. Do we really believe the SEC is done with expansion?
2. What will happen to the Rose Bowl? B1G Champ USC playing PAC Champ Washington in the Rose Bowl is a big 'ole meh for me.
3. If Stanford agrees to join the B1G, will that pry ND loose to join the B1G?
4. The B1G seems to want to expand west. SEC says its done with expansion. Is the ACC safe?
5. Does the Big 12 really have enough muscle to pry away PAC teams?
6. Is this really good for college football?
To be fair I think the unequal structure would just last till the next media rights deal if they did do an unequal one for those 4 schools. My guess is the 250 mil a year would be split between those schools. Then when a new media rights deal is up it would all go back to an equal share deal. At least that is what I hope it would be.The article mentions that those 4 schools are expected to substantially dilute the Big Ten's value to rightsholders per school (i.e., reduce the proportion of marquee matchups) so they could be asked to accept less money than the rest of the conference. Personally, I like the idea of adding those schools but not really if the consequence is an unequal payment structure. That's exactly what has led to the slow death of the Big 12 and I have no doubt that Illinois would be among the schools whose cut would be set to be reduced if our equal payment structure ends.
I think that's what they've done in the past with new members, right? I may be wrong, but I thought Maryland and Rutgers might still be getting less than other schools.To be fair I think the unequal structure would just last till the next media rights deal if they did do an unequal one for those 4 schools. My guess is the 250 mil a year would be split between those schools. Then when a new media rights deal is up it would all go back to an equal share deal. At least that is what I hope it would be.
Not sure I thought Rutgers got full payment but Maryland didn't because the B1G payed some of Maryland's penalty for getting out of the ACC. I do remember Nebraska had a few years of not getting full payment when they first joined. I could be wrong on Rutgers and they also got less at first.I think that's what they've done in the past with new members, right? I may be wrong, but I thought Maryland and Rutgers might still be getting less than other schools.
A few honest questions:4. The ACC is unequivocally and irrevocably dead as a "major" conference. They're also closed for ins and outs until that grant of rights gets much closer to the expiration date and moves for 2037 become more feasible. Everyone who can leave for the B1G or SEC at that time will without a second thought. That might be several of them or none of them, hard to project that far.
1. Equally dead. There are only two major conferences and the only thing that can ever change that is the eventual consolidation into one.A few honest questions:
1. Isn't the ACC's top tier of Clemson, FSU, Miami, and 1/2 of ND a lot better football than either the top tier of the PAC 12 or Big XII? If so, what are the Big XII and PAC 12 in comparison to the dead ACC?
2. How much of all this is recency bias? If we flash back to 2010 and compare it to 2025...If you said that the PAC 10 would lose USC and UCLA but gain Utah and Colorado, that would be bad but I at least still see a major conference. But if on the contrary, the Big XII were to lose Colorado, Nebraska, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and Missouri (the best half of the conference), and have to add six mid majors, wouldn't we view the Big XII as a mid-major, especially in comparison to the PAC 12?
Slight modification...Rose Bowl becomes the B1G championship game, played at 3:30 on Jan 1. Sugar Bowl becomes the SEC championship game, played at 7:00 on Jan 1. Two winners meet 10-15 days later at a neutral site, for the college football championship.Add Notre Dame, Virginia, North Carolina and Florida State. Scrap the college football playoff and play the SEC champ in the Rose Bowl each year.
Slight modification...Rose Bowl becomes the B1G championship game, played at 3:30 on Jan 1. Sugar Bowl becomes the SEC championship game, played at 7:00 on Jan 1. Two winners meet 10-15 days later at a neutral site, for the college football championship.
Well and mixing the two, get a bigger piece of the expanded CFP TV contract due to having the lion's share of the teams.Pretty sure they're looking to expand the CFP. The main drivers for this realignment is to A. TV Contracts (short term) and B. Get more SEC and in response more B10 teams into the playoff (long term).