Wisconsin 91, Illinois 88 OT Postgame
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Tomi's legs look dead. I really hope this early exit fixes some basic ails on both ends through rest alone. We looked worn TF out and frustrated, and at our best we were relentless on offense.
I'm hoping that gets fixed.
Double digit lead in 1st half then started chucking 3 shots. I think I counted 7 straight misses. Again middle of 2 nd half 13 pt. Lead and again start Chucking 3's. Moving from what got the lead and could blew it open. Bad coaching by staff and never called a timeout to talk it out. Terrible.
LMAO not the type of dudes I want leading the program. ESPECIALLY one who beats his wife.
I hear ya, danbor, I really do… but, as a presumptive 3 seed , we’ll play a 14 seed (who we should certainly beat) and then likely a 6 seed (which would be a Wisconsin-like team), which we’d also likely be favored by 5+ to beat. Could we lose… certainly we could: but it’s definitely not “hard to win image “ we’d beat the them
They looked like they were poised for a potential 1 seed until the MSU game and then the wheels came off.
Which actually seems to be a common thing with MSU playing the Illini.
It's just not appealing as a fan of 39 years to say, "we don't have a chance to actually win the championship, but we'll be good anyway!" I think we should be past that at this point.
I think you're overstating our resources.
When you get outscored by 16(!!!) points at the line, you're not going to win. Period.
It certainly implies being less engaged and maybe even less brought in.
I don’t know what’s worse … the nagging disappointment of these overtime losses, or the constant inexplicable urge to Venmo Old Trapper.
Today’s contribution of 5/17 caused an increase.
He needs to sit and watch his brother play.
Where does my post say that? My post literally says the opposite. When you have a good coach, even one that had not "won the big one" yet, you are far more likely to win a championship by sticking with that coach than by changing that coach.
Again an example of us talking past one another on “being happy with one elite 8” versus “history says this is the right formula to stick with.”
Even IF you did say that. What does that even mean. That you need to make a change for a guy who’s won a championship? Okay, cool! Good luck in that hiring!
To clarify…perhaps the faction of this board that was intended for doesn’t have a clear delineation. I don’t feel like you fall into that faction. I read your posts often and respect them. You have reasoned posts, and you rightfully point out what you see as flaws.
My question was geared towards the “we’re gonna lose in the first round” and “fire brad now” and “never play Tomi again” type posts.
To answer your question…I definitely question this teams ability to make a deep run now. They’ve git a wall, their flaws are exposed, the Ivisics are in a bad shooting slump, etc etc. But this team is far too talented to exclaim with certainty that they’ll lose in the first round. This team has clearly shown they have no trouble beating the quality of team they’ll see in that 14 or 15 spot. And they SHOULD beat a 6-7 seed team in the 2nd round. After that…my confidence drops off a cliff, for sure. So, I feel like Sweet 16 is where we land…but who knows? This team has shown they are capable of making a run and playing with anybody, so its not impossible. Plus thats the beauty of March. Anyone can get hot and make a run. Remember that 8 seed v 9 seed Championship game between UConn and Kentucky?
Anyway…I’m not saying you shouldn’t have doubts, shouldn’t want more March success, etc. All reasonable things to question. Again, the line is blurry between oosts like yours that are critical, and the extreme takes claiming we’rendoomed to lose in the first round.
I miss the fiery Brad from the first several years. Now, he just sits there and looks perplexed about what is going on.
I hate to say this, but I'm starting to wonder if a new rule should be put into play for offensive flopping. Remember when a defensive flop became a technical? It helped stop that quite a bit. I'm not an advocate for more time wasted on replay, but it's gotten ridiculous!!! I can think of multiple games where refs blew the whistle against Illinois 3-4 times in the game this year when our defenders literally didn't touch the offensive player b/c the offensive player flailed their arms/legs/head. It's so hard to watch and not OK! Andrej, Kylan, Wagler go to the rim strong and get bodied all the time and there aren't many fouls called. Then this BS happens when the opponent goes to the rim and completely flops and it's an automatic whistle. Fears did this to us 3-4 times in the Mich. St. game. Mills did this in the Maryland game. They either need to penalize flopping or Underwood needs to teach our guys to start doing it.
Fan Since '70
- OBS, Florida
This team needs to grow a spine and play full out all the time. They have much more talent than most other teams but don't consistently show it. Disappointing.
Don’t hate you saying it.
It needs to stop. And it’s at all levels. Teams with players who have no interest in playing actual basketball are rewarded. It’s good for no one.
If your head violently jerks back, you better be dead. If not, enjoy the technical you just cost your team and do it again, you’re done.
I’ll take it a step further, if you motion with your finger for a review, your team automatically has to challenge. If you’re out of challenges, enjoy the technical. I’m tired of watching players do that - ours included.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Really good points and something I've wondered about a lot. Our players don't do this, and that's because Brad doesn't coach them to. Look at the teams that do it a lot and then look at the coach. Izzo and Gard are 2 of the biggest offenders in the conference. Players will play as they're coached and are a reflection of their coach (Fears is another example of why Izzo is a scumbag.)
A few other changes that should be made:
* ANY play is reviewable, including whether a call should have been made but nothing was called.
* Reviews are done by off-court referees. They have no communication with the on-court refs before, during, or after the game. The on-court refs don't know who any of these people are.
* Increase the number of coach's challenges. At least 2 per half. No timeout penalty if you lose one.
* Officials must do post-game press conferences like coaches do.
* At halftime, the 3 on-court refs are placed in separate rooms and cannot communicate with each other. They also have a mid-game review of their performance by an evaluator.
I have a lot more, but start with these...
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