What's really happening is that Groce is telling JT to not sign so that rumors will spread about him decommitting. With the rumor, Kiir will likely favor Illinois. Once Kiir signs with Illinois, JT will sign his but it'll be too late for Kiir to change his mind. It's ingenious really.
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What's really happening is that Groce is telling JT to not sign so that rumors will spread about him decommitting. With the rumor, Kiir will likely favor Illinois. Once Kiir signs with Illinois, JT will sign his but it'll be too late for Kiir to change his mind. It's ingenious really.
I wouldn't be so sure, we recently offered Wooten, we are currently sitting on 2 open schollies in 2017, we should still be recruiting for those no matter what happens with Tilmon.
Bring back Austin Colbert, please!!
Frazier has signed his. I swore that he would have it signed and faxed in by midnight. He literally has done nothing but scream Illini the entire time. Maybe Florida had all the phone lines tied up till now
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I disagree. We have several open scholarships and a large need for large basketball players. We have no guarantees with Kiir. Scouting and offering 2/3 star players starting now just means Groce is hedging his bet. Such players wouldn't sign until after Tilmon's status is more clear closer to the late signing period anyway, so you can certainly recruit those kids just in case and still be optimistic that Tilmon is still on board.
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Have not seen this posted yet, but some interesting quotes from Goodwin on Tilmon in the Belleview newspaper:
“I talked to him a little bit,” Goodwin said of Tilmon. “He didn’t tell me much about it. I just told him if he’s thinking about it, do whatever you’ve got to do to make you happy. Make sure it’s the decision you wanted.
“He probably felt pressure to sign, he probably felt pressure to commit to Illinois at the time. But I just told him do what I did, take your time, go with whoever you trust. It’s all about trust.”
“I talked to him a little bit,” Goodwin said of Tilmon. “He didn’t tell me much about it. I just told him if he’s thinking about it, do whatever you’ve got to do to make you happy. Make sure it’s the decision you wanted.
“He probably felt pressure to sign, he probably felt pressure to commit to Illinois at the time. But I just told him do what I did, take your time, go with whoever you trust. It’s all about trust.”
That's nice of Goodwin to say because the trust thing will point him to Groce as that is the reason JT and his mother committed in the first place.
I think his big fear is Groce being on the hot seat. I think he is scared Groce could be fired, or else he would be signing today.
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If that happened he would be released from his LOI. Having said that, I wouldn't blame any top 25 recruit who decided to not sign to avoid that extra hassle.
It is remarkable to me the amount of excuses that get thrown out around here when this happens....you have some doubts that Ford is kinky?..you shouldnt...thats whats going on here..its deja vu all over again..want to play with the big boys?..step up to the plate
Man you're loving this meltdown aren't you lol
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2 down 2 to go. Williams & Frazier signed!!!
Good luck with that.
I heard Chastain grew 4 inches, put on 30 pounds of muscle, has a 40 inch vertical and NBA range. Is it too late to get him down to Chambana?!!! Maybe he's waiting for Patterson to sign!
Imagine Chastain and Patterson together!!!!!!!
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Right. Anybody who thinks Goodwin is telling Tilmon what he says in that article, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Oh definitely. This is a big decision. You can't base it off of stupid things like choosing the school whose atrocious mascot chases you in a dream.
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[FONT="]Bret Beherns @WCIA3Bret 7m7 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]This situation reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon in 2006. 5-star recruit, new head coach at a competing school, radio silence at the end[/FONT]
[FONT="]Bret Beherns @WCIA3Bret 10m10 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]I've been in touch with East St. Louis folk and been told Jeremiah Tilmon is not available to talk at this point #Illini[/FONT]
[FONT="]This situation reminds me a lot of Eric Gordon in 2006. 5-star recruit, new head coach at a competing school, radio silence at the end[/FONT]
[FONT="]Bret Beherns @WCIA3Bret 10m10 minutes ago [/FONT]
[FONT="]I've been in touch with East St. Louis folk and been told Jeremiah Tilmon is not available to talk at this point #Illini[/FONT]
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