Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (April 2017)

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EfremWinters84

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Thoughts?

Per Ryan Evan...via twitter

Wouldn't be suprised 2 see the new #illini staff contact @bradyernst33 -kids the real deal. Mobile 6'10 dunks everything. 3 year eligibility




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Wow, a big with actual inside moves. A little Ian Happ, perhaps? And if he's good enough for Xavier, he's good enough for me.
 
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Leron is pretty much set at the high post, but needs to add the ability to score off the dribble from there for max effectiveness. DJ will be capable of playing all 5 spots. I think he could be hell in the high post. But a long, athletic, bouncy guy cutting through the defense or turning the corner on a handoff with an open lane is pretty sweet to think about too.



I love the thought of DJ on this team. Do you think he is waiting to see what Mark Smith does or who else we bring in before he makes up his mind?


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I love the thought of DJ on this team. Do you think he is waiting to see what Mark Smith does or who else we bring in before he makes up his mind?


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The issue with DJ is that coaches and fans have been projecting how good he might be since he was a sophomore in high school. Heck, Robert Smith benched him all the time even when he was a senior and signed with Illinois. Then at Illinois, he has show very short flashes but it goes away quickly. Upping a player's motor is not that easy, and so far, high school and college coaches have not been able to accomplish it with DJ.

If he stays on the team, I would have very low expectations and be pleasantly surprised if he contributed positive minutes.
 
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I love the thought of DJ on this team. Do you think he is waiting to see what Mark Smith does or who else we bring in before he makes up his mind?


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I think DJ will be here as long as he put the effort in during practice, BU doesn't seem to be a coach who lets guys be lazy. So we will see if the reason for him not seeing the court much ,do to his lack of effort in practice was true or not
 
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The issue with DJ is that coaches and fans have been projecting how good he might be since he was a sophomore in high school. Heck, Robert Smith benched him all the time even when he was a senior and signed with Illinois. Then at Illinois, he has show very short flashes but it goes away quickly. Upping a player's motor is not that easy, and so far, high school and college coaches have not been able to accomplish it with DJ.



If he stays on the team, I would have very low expectations and be pleasantly surprised if he contributed positive minutes.



Which is somewhat mind boggling looking back at his offer list coming out of high school:

Illinois
Florida
DePaul
Purdue
Georgetown
Tennessee

But I do agree, bad habits are hard to break, and he has definitely formed some over the last two or three years.


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This is 100% a #hottake, but I've always gotten the feeling that DJ hasn't been given a real opportunity to get into rhythm on the court. He seems to get yanked so quickly, even after making plays.
 
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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

This is 100% a #hottake, but I've always gotten the feeling that DJ hasn't been given a real opportunity to get into rhythm on the court. He seems to get yanked so quickly, even after making plays.



I think you're partially right, but it's probably also because once he makes a bad play he gets down on himself and gets lazy. Which I'm assuming he would do in practice also so coach knew what was coming and would pull him out.

EDIT: also a 100% #hottake

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TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
I think you're partially right, but it's probably also because once he makes a bad play he gets down on himself and gets lazy. Which I'm assuming he would do in practice also so coach knew what was coming and would pull him out.

EDIT: also a 100% #hottake

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Agree 100% that it's mental with him. He has all the tools (except maybe a great outside shot), to be a quality B1G level player, but he tends to get in a funk. I don't think it's laziness though, he just becomes to passive and hesitant if things aren't going his way. I think that's why Rob Smith would pull him in and out of games at Simeon, trying to get him to snap out of it.

It actually reminds be a lot of Mav. We all remember how timid Mav looked on the court his first three years. Luckily he was able to flip a switch last year, but that doesn't happen for everyone.
 
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Agree 100% that it's mental with him. He has all the tools (except maybe a great outside shot), to be a quality B1G level player, but he tends to get in a funk. I don't think it's laziness though, he just becomes to passive and hesitant if things aren't going his way. I think that's why Rob Smith would pull him in and out of games at Simeon, trying to get him to snap out of it.

It actually reminds be a lot of Mav. We all remember how timid Mav looked on the court his first three years. Luckily he was able to flip a switch last year, but that doesn't happen for everyone.



Unfortunately being passive and hesitant looks the same as lazy when it comes to basketball. Especially from a coaches perspective.

I would love to see DJ have a similar turnaround that Mav did, of course we all would.


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TownieMatt

CU Expat
Chicago
Unfortunately being passive and hesitant looks the same as lazy when it comes to basketball. Especially from a coaches perspective.

I would love to see DJ have a similar turnaround that Mav did, of course we all would.


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It might look the same, but a good coach knows if the cause is laziness or a lack of confidence. A good coach also knows that there's a big difference in the way you go about fixing those two issues.
 
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It might look the same, but a good coach knows if the cause is laziness or a lack of confidence. A good coach also knows that there's a big difference in the way you go about fixing those two issues.



Thus, the reason Groce couldn't get the best out of him, and the reason I think BU can.


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Wow, a big with actual inside moves. A little Ian Happ, perhaps? And if he's good enough for Xavier, he's good enough for me.

One thing I noticed during the video that was posted. He never used his left hand to finish around the rim. All of his post moves, he goes over his left shoulder finishing with a right handed hook. I hope he can go left or teams will just sit on his left shoulder making his moves ineffective.
 
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This is 100% a #hottake, but I've always gotten the feeling that DJ hasn't been given a real opportunity to get into rhythm on the court. He seems to get yanked so quickly, even after making plays.

While not necessarily disagreeing with your view as to DJ, it applies more to AJ IMO. DJ got some regular game action for awhile before the falling out occurred. The guy who never got in much at all, and when he did was yanked nearly immediately, was AJ. And despite that AJ never sulked, failed to hustle, or lost focus when he did get in. I'm hoping he gets a better chance to play under BU.
 
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So what's the story with Brady Ernst? It seems like he signed with Iowa St., ended up playing a year of Juco ball, committed to Xavier, and is now decommitting from Xavier and opening up his recruitment with 3 years of eligibility and can play immediately? Does that sound about right? I wonder why he has moved around so much.

I think the transfer from Iowa St. was related to an injury.

Ernst saw action in six games before missing the remainder of the season because of issues with his knee, which was still recovering from an ACL tear suffered late during his senior year of high school
http://www.cyclones.com/news/2016/5/9/210942387.aspx

Decommittment from Xavier was due to them taking Kanter.
 
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Illiniwek06

N of I-80
http://www.ny2lasports.com/article_one.aspx?articleid=3748

http://www.scout.com/college/iowa-state/story/1558356-brady-ernst-commits-to-iowa-state

Narrative are just that, similar school set. Interestingly...he was recruited at none other than Stephen F Austin in 2015, who was there again?:chief:

Huh? The narrative of one guy committing to Iowa State and Xavier is not at all similar to a guy with offers from Eastern Illinois, Northern Iowa, and Illinois State. And that's great that SFA recruited Bruninga in 2015. Maybe it's because SFA doesn't attract the talent that UI does?
 
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Illiniwek06

N of I-80
First off, Ernst when recruited by Iowa State had mid major offers:

Secondly ERNST was recruited by SFA NOT Bruninga? Underwood would have been recruiting him...

https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/prom-gets-commit-from-brady-ernst.20826/

I don't understand what your point is then? Are you talking up Bruninga or Ernst? Because I'm totally happy with Ernst. Not so much with Bruninga.

Edit: From your original post I responded to, I thought you were saying Ernst and Bruninga are similar because you said "same type of schools recruited him originally as 'Bruninga'" - my point was that, I feel Ernst is much better because of his offers/commitments versus Bruninga's offers.
 
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The issue with DJ is that coaches and fans have been projecting how good he might be since he was a sophomore in high school. Heck, Robert Smith benched him all the time even when he was a senior and signed with Illinois. Then at Illinois, he has show very short flashes but it goes away quickly. Upping a player's motor is not that easy, and so far, high school and college coaches have not been able to accomplish it with DJ.

If he stays on the team, I would have very low expectations and be pleasantly surprised if he contributed positive minutes.


I'm not sure he ever saw enough playing time to say his flashes go away quickly. I'm not saying he deserved more time, just as a fan didn't see enough to really make that statement.
 
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The thing I don't like about us speculating on DJ getting more playing time is that we have no idea what he did in practice. It's very possible that he would give up easily and the coaching staff wanted to try and get rid of that sort of attitude.

I would say the same about AJ, but everything I have ever heard about him suggests otherwise.
 
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Illiniwek06

N of I-80
Point is if a scholarship is there, why not take a flyer on a kid like Bruninga?
If all pans out, he MIGHT end up being as good as we all think Ernst would be for us right now?

If Bruninga gets an offer and ends up at UI, I'll support him. Sitting here today, I would not be pleased if we end up with Bruninga when we had, say, Pickett committed already.
 
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