Exactly. Irvin's are working with us to acquire their top talent.
Simeon never did that. They sent us their leftovers.
Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (October 2017)
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Exactly. Irvin's are working with us to acquire their top talent.
Simeon never did that. They sent us their leftovers.
Yeah, I think BU did the best possible in this situation, but this still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like Simeon and Robert Smith has done their best to send players to Illinois but again, not blue chip talent. If MIF is saying they're going to steer more 5* our way (especially with Chin) then this is the right move. Big boy recruiting fellas, we better get use to it
Again, bring on the MIF recruits. Simeon pipeline? lol
LubbockIlliniFan
- Savoy, IL
and Simeon's best player in the past 10 years Jabari never even gave us a look...
If these rumors are true, he better end up here
LOL'ing at all the fans who in one breath say "we want to compete with the blue bloods" in recruiting and consistent success, but then can't handle the hot stove that is Chicago recruiting.
This is what it is.
You asked for it. You got it. Get over it.
Seriously, these people drive me crazy. This IS THE STATE OF COLLEGE BASEKTBALL. You make accommodations for top players.
illiniCA
- DC Area
LOL'ing at all the fans who in one breath say "we want to compete with the blue bloods" in recruiting and consistent success, but then can't handle the hot stove that is Chicago recruiting.
This is what it is.
You asked for it. You got it. Get over it.
There is middle ground here. There is no reason for this to be the way it is
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IlliniForTheWin
- Georgia
They may not dictate. But they steer and steer hard. :gossip:
hahaha this is so true it hurts. And it should be a wakeup call to those to step off the ledge a bit.
IlliniDent
- Chicago, IL
Honestly BU just got too optimistic about making this work, clearly underestimated how deep this went
schnaurt
- Phoenix, AZ
MIF player. Would have rather been in with the Irvins on that recruitment as well. Sonny drove that recruitment but may have had a better shot.
That is not true, at least not if you believe coach Smith, Weber had a chance maybe not great but Groce had 0 chance
LubbockIlliniFan
- Savoy, IL
gotcha...I was thinking Simeon players
All fine and good, but IMHO staff should have known this and cut ties with Tucker once Ayo committed..
Brining him n for an ov looks bad.
I agree but they shouldnt dictate who Illinois takes
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
It is true. Brock, Tate, Williams, Nunn.... that is object fact.
Do you remember how beloved Simeon had Derek Rose play us during his recruiting as to keep the pressure on Memphis? Had him visit one day before he committed to Memphis? They used us as a pawn.
I'm going in the corner with the Irvins. Simeon has given us nothing but their leftovers.
Is you want to have serious college basketball success, yes it should
Finally some semblance of reason. No one thought he was coming here a week ago. And then everybody was convinced it was a locked up done deal. And now he's definitely not coming and it's all the Irvin's fault. There are so many possible reasons for however this plays out they're not even worth listing. Also because they would all be speculation used to let the soft majority feel better bu having someone to praise or blame.
ILLINIWEK86
Dick Vitale walks into a bar..
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Oh calm down. I'm not being serious. I'll definitely be happy with a *5 PG. I don't get so into this stuff that I post to kids. Haha, that's just nonsense in my opinion.
Seriously though...you don't think there is any possibility that very situation could happen? You would be lying to yourself if you think not. This avoidable situation should be all you need to know.
sacraig
- The desert
I am laughing a little at the outrage here. No doubt about it, this situation sucks for THT (if he really did want to attend Illinois) and has a bad look to it. But how many of us on here for years have repeatedly harped on needed to work a little in the "grey area" of recruiting? Welcome to the grey area, folks, where power plays and tit-for-tat politics in the AAU can play a role in current and future recruiting for years.
It's a bad look for a number of people involved right now, but if it helps us finally make inroads with the Irvins, who coach a ton of the best in-state talent, then it can still be a long-term win for us, even if it looks kind of crappy now. That's the calculus the staff is likely using.
It's a bad look for a number of people involved right now, but if it helps us finally make inroads with the Irvins, who coach a ton of the best in-state talent, then it can still be a long-term win for us, even if it looks kind of crappy now. That's the calculus the staff is likely using.
IlliniForTheWin
- Georgia
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
Something changed within the past 24 hours. To think otherwise is to ignore the obvious circumstantial evidence.
sacraig
- The desert
No one. That's sort of the point. The whole idea here is to basically throw them a bone with the idea that our relationship with them improves from "nonexistent" to "we have a chance now" with their big fish.
Exactly.
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