If he’s legitimately wanting to take that approach, he has zero incentive to sign.
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I agree, he shouldn't sign, but why not orally commit, like Villanueva did? That would help us gain recruiting momentum and wouldn't bind him if Ayo gets hurt.
Villanueva? You don't have to use language like that on this public site. Watch your mouth.
Well, the Illini already have 4/4 crystal balls for Miller....
I think your definition of "commit" is not the standard one -- nobody publicly announces "I am going to play there unless X happens."
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sacraig
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I think your definition of "commit" is not the standard one. 4/4 recruiting writers predicting he will commit is not the same as committing, full stop.
sacraig, we are on the same page. Indications are that he has told the staff he wants to come here unless Ayo doesn't go pro, and all I am saying is that the people who are demanding he make this a public commitment of any kind are out of line.
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Sure but from the standpoint of optics, it is basically a non-commitment. Maybe he gave that, ahem, silent verbal, but there is no way to use that for recruiting purposes without him making it public.
I think from a recruiting stand point we'll get plenty of mileage out of it for the 202 class which is principally what matters. I don't think we're necessarily needing anything more for this fall.
Hopefully the "Ayo going pro" question is settled in people's minds by the first couple B1G games.
If the mutually exclusive options are junior Ayo, or freshman Adam, then that sounds win-win.
I imagine Jr Ayo would be better for on the court performance.
I imagine Jr Ayo would be better for on the court performance.
He is going pro unless he sustains an injury.
Miller, Curbelo, Hawkins.
Staff already starting to focus on 2021. Props to BU, Chin and OA for putting this class together.
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Or maybe at the secret scrimmage with South Carolina on Sunday.
Does that include other than the NBA?
If he stays healthy, he will be an NBA pick.
The goal is to be a 1st round pick.
Not just making it to the league and washing out, but making it in the league and having a long career.
He is going pro unless he sustains an injury.
Miller, Curbelo, Hawkins.
Staff already starting to focus on 2021. Props to BU, Chin and OA for putting this class together.
I believe that. I'm just saying that perhaps Miller won't believe it until he sees a real movement of Ayo up the draft boards. Despite some comments, Ayo is not a consensus first rounder at this time. Many have him there, but others don't.
Seems like the implication is that Miller is going to wait to commit until after the Fall Signing Period, once some of the season has played out and it’s clear Ayo is going pro.
Maybe I missed someone else saying this, but this still seems plenty risky for Illinois. He’s a Top 50 guy; if we don’t lock him up now we risk better schools coming calling in the Spring. The last thing we need is Michigan or a Blue Blood sniffing around and giving us competition. Am I crazy? That seems like a very real possibility if we don’t lock this up in the fall signing period.
Maybe I missed someone else saying this, but this still seems plenty risky for Illinois. He’s a Top 50 guy; if we don’t lock him up now we risk better schools coming calling in the Spring. The last thing we need is Michigan or a Blue Blood sniffing around and giving us competition. Am I crazy? That seems like a very real possibility if we don’t lock this up in the fall signing period.
There wouldn't be enough minutes, which is why there is hesitation, because I think Millers camp is telling him he is 1 and done...if he truly thougth he was a 2-3 player than PRO, I don't think the Ayo to Pro or not factors in?
Yes he will want to play alot...and right away, hence the hesitation of Ayo PRO or not..
24/7 rankings are not the end all be all for ANY NBA drafting person I can guarantee that, players are drafted for potential, need, fit...24/7 and Rivals both have him ranked by stars as a SG which is my case.
AM is a combo guard and a damn good one...he will NEED to be a PG at the PRO level.
Playing Time (Miller/Griffin/Williams) could all be slotted into a 2-3 position as far as play if needed, Ayo/Trent/Curbelo at PG for one year with Trent/Curbelo/Miller the following if Ayo didn't turn after this year and waited yet another.
Miller is more developed as a scorer than Ayo, not sure as a PG, and late first round prediction could also mean no first round...which doesn't scream 1 and done to me?
According to this site, the consensus currently has Ayo as the last pick of the first round.
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba_mock_drafts/consensus
This would be a very Illinois thing
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It’s got to be voluntary on both sides. Miller will do what he wants to do. He’s got that right. Illini are fine waiting when the alternative is filling the scholly with someone of less talent.
If Miller and his handlers believe he is a one and done, why wouldn’t they also believe he can earn starter minutes, regardless of the current roster construction?
Seems to me that a guy who is good enough to play among best 360 players in the world would be arguably the best player on just about any team in the nation.
Far more concerning is Curbelo and his waiting to sign until the Spring. This is the last year of Antigua's 3 year contract and he is only making in the low $300's. He was used to the $900's as HC at USF. My guess is no Antigua and there is no Curbelo.
Oh totally agree. Obviously he’s worth waiting. But I’m sure the staff would love to have this thing wrap up in November before even more suitors get involved.
Right. But he’s expected to shut it down in the fall, isn’t he?
Joel Goodson
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Shut yer dirty mouth!
Haha, hasn't your buddy Spackler brought this up on another board??
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