Bracketology (Week of Feb. 8th)

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Would it be preferable to play Baylor again or go against Gonzaga that we haven't seen in a little while?
I prefer Baylor regardless of the fact that we played them before. I don’t think we match up well with Gonzaga. We are playing at an elite level defensively right now but the idea of shutting down both kispert and Suggs is frightening. Kofi can handle timme no doubt
 
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I prefer Baylor regardless of the fact that we played them before. I don’t think we match up well with Gonzaga. We are playing at an elite level defensively right now but the idea of shutting down both kispert and Suggs is frightening. Kofi can handle timme no doubt

Just to describe in more detail why I don't think we match up well with Gonzaga, the problem really starts and ends with Suggs. We don't have anyone who can check him. Trent is undersized & Suggs will just overpower him to the basket. If you put Ayo on Suggs I think that could slow him down a bit but then who guards Kispert? Dude reminds me so much of Kyle Korver and it feels like he never misses a transition three. Maybe you put Miller on him to add some physicality but putting a freshman on an All American seems like a bad idea. And then after all that you have to contend with Nembhard (or however you spell it) off the bench.

No doubt we can score on them but can we stop them enough is the question.
 
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I’ve been doing Bracketology for about the last 15-20 years now. For anyone else who’s a nerd like me; I attached a link to the rules of forming the bracket.
I have been doing it for years also and the committee pulls a few fast ones. BYU gets a Sunday exemption for one. They move teams up a line or down a line for potential matchups etc.
 
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Tipoff times and TV info for the NCAA tournament have been announced: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...tip-off-times-and-selection-sunday-announced/
Not a big fan of the scheduling. I really like the Thursday/Friday first round(best days of the year), then Saturday/Sunday second round. It makes for a great long weekend.

We'll see how this rap around format works. It's totally understandable that they need an adjustment for safety. I hope they limit it to this year.
 
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Not a big fan of the scheduling. I really like the Thursday/Friday first round(best days of the year), then Saturday/Sunday second round. It makes for a great long weekend.

We'll see how this rap around format works. It's totally understandable that they need an adjustment for safety. I hope they limit it to this year.

Yeah my guess is that it's just for this year. What's gonna be interesting is how the NCAA handles things if one of the teams has a covid outbreak. They've already gone on record saying the tournament won't be pushed back for any reason. And the thing that everyone has to remember is that players have to have 7 straight days of negative tests in order to play.
 
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Not that it really matters, but CBS has Illinois at #5 in their top 25 and 1 and #13 in their power rankings. Seems like an error.
 
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The later we are slotted to potentially meet them, the less likely they get there (even if it's a small chance they lose) and adding a Final Four banner to the SFC would be pretty dang cool even if we don't win the national championship, IMO.
And it would keep the (every sixteen years) streak alive.
 
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Not that it really matters, but CBS has Illinois at #5 in their top 25 and 1 and #13 in their power rankings. Seems like an error.

Gary Parrish does their Top 25 and 1 and Mott Norlander does their power rankings. It's not an error. Illinois has been out of their power rankings for the past month. Norlander is an idiot.
 
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Gary Parrish does their Top 25 and 1 and Mott Norlander does their power rankings. It's not an error. Illinois has been out of their power rankings for the past month. Norlander is an idiot.
His write up sure doesn't sound like we should be out of the top 10.
 
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i think Norlander's perspective is how 'hot' they are playing 'now' and not weeks or month(s) ago. I think our view is that we are hot now and getting hotter. His list and rank of who and why are hot now is idiotic, or weak at best
 
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Not a big fan of the scheduling. I really like the Thursday/Friday first round(best days of the year), then Saturday/Sunday second round. It makes for a great long weekend.

We'll see how this rap around format works. It's totally understandable that they need an adjustment for safety. I hope they limit it to this year.
I am sure many employers prefer this set-up. Maybe some work will get done on Thursday.
 
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Not a big fan of the scheduling. I really like the Thursday/Friday first round(best days of the year), then Saturday/Sunday second round. It makes for a great long weekend.

We'll see how this rap around format works. It's totally understandable that they need an adjustment for safety. I hope they limit it to this year.
I hate the schedule especially the second round games where its three games spread out on sunday/monday and 5 games at night each. But I understand that they need to they need to adapt. Hopefully this a one year thing
 
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Yeah my guess is that it's just for this year. What's gonna be interesting is how the NCAA handles things if one of the teams has a covid outbreak. They've already gone on record saying the tournament won't be pushed back for any reason. And the thing that everyone has to remember is that players have to have 7 straight days of negative tests in order to play.
If the bar is 7 days of clean testing, we are almost certain to see multiple outbreaks. The CDC site says that the odds of a person being unknowingly infected after 7 days of negative tests is 5-12%. After 9 days of negative tests, the number drops to ~1%. After 10 days, it looks like ~0.1%.

If there are 68 teams and ~20 people/team, then there are 1400+ people involved.
Assuming a _7_ day quarantine, the odds of at least one incident are ~100%.
Assuming a _9_ day quarantine, there is a 99.9999994% chance that there will be at least one incident.
Assuming a _10_ day quarantine, there is a 75% chance that there will be at least one incident.

This calculation assumes that players start in an unknown state. Most teams are taking enough precautions that the starting state is better than unknown. The above is mostly to demonstrate that the NCAA absolutely has to have a plan in place. With a 7 day quarantine they are almost guaranteed to need it.
 
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If the bar is 7 days of clean testing, we are almost certain to see multiple outbreaks. The CDC site says that the odds of a person being unknowingly infected after 7 days of negative tests is 5-12%. After 9 days of negative tests, the number drops to ~1%. After 10 days, it looks like ~0.1%.

If there are 68 teams and ~20 people/team, then there are 1400+ people involved.
Assuming a _7_ day quarantine, the odds of at least one incident are ~100%.
Assuming a _9_ day quarantine, there is a 99.9999994% chance that there will be at least one incident.
Assuming a _10_ day quarantine, there is a 75% chance that there will be at least one incident.

This calculation assumes that players start in an unknown state. Most teams are taking enough precautions that the starting state is better than unknown. The above is mostly to demonstrate that the NCAA absolutely has to have a plan in place. With a 7 day quarantine they are almost guaranteed to need it.
Thanks for terrifying me.
 
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If the bar is 7 days of clean testing, we are almost certain to see multiple outbreaks. The CDC site says that the odds of a person being unknowingly infected after 7 days of negative tests is 5-12%. After 9 days of negative tests, the number drops to ~1%. After 10 days, it looks like ~0.1%.

If there are 68 teams and ~20 people/team, then there are 1400+ people involved.
Assuming a _7_ day quarantine, the odds of at least one incident are ~100%.
Assuming a _9_ day quarantine, there is a 99.9999994% chance that there will be at least one incident.
Assuming a _10_ day quarantine, there is a 75% chance that there will be at least one incident.

This calculation assumes that players start in an unknown state. Most teams are taking enough precautions that the starting state is better than unknown. The above is mostly to demonstrate that the NCAA absolutely has to have a plan in place. With a 7 day quarantine they are almost guaranteed to need it.
Not to be argumentative, but this doesn’t seem right. If you test positive for Covid and have mild symptoms you likely aren’t transmitting it after seven days from your positive test. That means if everyone were being tested in a quarantine situation, odds of having Covid and transmitting it are very low after a week of negative tests.
 
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Thanks for terrifying me.
np. The thing I hope people will take away from this is a comparison to real life. If we could miraculously have everyone vaccinated tomorrow, and they all immediately went back to life as usual, it would be the 7 day quarantine calculation above. The vaccine alone is not enough for a quick recovery. The additional protection from the masks makes a huge difference in the recovery time. Please wear your masks, even after being vaccinated. It will probably be needed until the end of the year.

BWA: I think you may have read an article that simplified things. People are *highly* infectious for ~7 days after the first positive test. They are still infectious for another 5-7 days after that.
 
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If the bar is 7 days of clean testing, we are almost certain to see multiple outbreaks. The CDC site says that the odds of a person being unknowingly infected after 7 days of negative tests is 5-12%. After 9 days of negative tests, the number drops to ~1%. After 10 days, it looks like ~0.1%.

If there are 68 teams and ~20 people/team, then there are 1400+ people involved.
Assuming a _7_ day quarantine, the odds of at least one incident are ~100%.
Assuming a _9_ day quarantine, there is a 99.9999994% chance that there will be at least one incident.
Assuming a _10_ day quarantine, there is a 75% chance that there will be at least one incident.

This calculation assumes that players start in an unknown state. Most teams are taking enough precautions that the starting state is better than unknown. The above is mostly to demonstrate that the NCAA absolutely has to have a plan in place. With a 7 day quarantine they are almost guaranteed to need it.
I know this is getting into the Covid weeds, but I think this is potentially confusing. I believe what the CDC says is that IF a person has been exposed to someone known to have Covid AND they have gone 7 days after exposure with daily testing through day 5 (with the negative test from the 5th day coming 48 hours later on the 7th day) THEN there is a 5% chance of transmission to others (with an upper limit of 12%). My understanding is that the NCAA is actually requiring 7 negative tests; not 7 days since the first sample that was taken came back with a negative result. So, with 7 negative tests as the standard, that puts the odds of a significant outbreak a lot lower.
 
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I know this is getting into the Covid weeds, but I think this is potentially confusing. I believe what the CDC says is that IF a person has been exposed to someone known to have Covid AND they have gone 7 days after exposure with daily testing through day 5 (with the negative test from the 5th day coming 48 hours later on the 7th day) THEN there is a 5% chance of transmission to others (with an upper limit of 12%). My understanding is that the NCAA is actually requiring 7 negative tests; not 7 days since the first sample that was taken came back with a negative result. So, with 7 negative tests as the standard, that puts the odds of a significant outbreak a lot lower.
I agree. The seven days versus seven tests is significant. And it is also significant that we are not starting from scratch before the proposed quarantine. I don't know enough about how the other conferences are handling testing, but I can say with a high degree of confidence that B1G teams will be going into quarantine with weeks (and even months) of negative tests. As far as we know, our team has never had a positive test. With daily testing, going back to the beginning of our season, that's approximately 100 consecutive days of negative tests. We've successfully controlled what we've been able to on our end. Kudos to everyone involved.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
I agree. The seven days versus seven tests is significant. And it is also significant that we are not starting from scratch before the proposed quarantine. I don't know enough about how the other conferences are handling testing, but I can say with a high degree of confidence that B1G teams will be going into quarantine with weeks (and even months) of negative tests. As far as we know, our team has never had a positive test. With daily testing, going back to the beginning of our season, that's approximately 100 consecutive days of negative tests. We've successfully controlled what we've been able to on our end. Kudos to everyone involved.
Yes, from what has been said, the sacrifices that these players, coaches, etc. have made is incredible. No contact with anyone outside of your pod. I know many of us are doing similar things, but to do it as a college student is giving up more than I am.
 
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