Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (March 2021)

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Joel Goodson

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A really good primer on the cesspool that is hoops recruiting is The Scheme (HBO Max). Fair warning: a long, hot shower immediately afterwards may be necessary.
 
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If you look at it as “us vs one other school”, you will get irrationally frustrated and angry, bc no matter what the reports say, you never really know who the “final few” are.

Boom. Last day new school. How did that happen?!

the field. That’s how. ;)
This reminds me a lot of the Zavier Simpson fiasco.
 
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Uh the field is who we are against (always) and that is what I am saying.

When you make a bet on Tiger vs the field, you don’t “re-bet” on the last day... your bet is still, and always, tiger vs the field.

You are free to “uh...what” me if you’d like, but facts are facts. What % of recruits that we offer do we get? A very low %.
Not because we were beaten by 1 school each time, but Bc we were beaten by the field, every time.

If you look at it as “us vs one other school”, you will get irrationally frustrated and angry, bc no matter what the reports say, you never really know who the “final few” are.

Boom. Last day new school. How did that happen?!

the field. That’s how. ;)

This all happened in the last 24 hours. There (allegedly) was no field at that point. He was (allegedly) set to come here, then ASU made a place, and now he is (allegedly) set to go there. If you placed a bet on where he would go when he decommitted from MSU, then yes, it's us vs. the field and you should always take the field. But apparently, within the last few days, the field was (allegedly) equivalent to just ASU, i.e. placing a bet at that point is far different. It's 1 on 1, and that's a very different prospect.

Your post was made at the end when clearly the field had narrowed. Always bet the field at the beginning of the race. At the end when it's neck and neck with 2 front runners (or if our horse is allegedly clearly leading), it's not us vs. the field. It is us vs. the other horse. Obviously the track doesn't take bets at that point, but this isn't horse racing and the metaphor is plenty stretched as it is.
 
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I'm not sure if Bass is a point or a combo or how the staff views that. With Underwood putting such a premium on passing I wouldn't be surprised to see them take another guard that slides over into the true point role a bit more but with that being said maybe the staff views Bass as that guy 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️
Going by the limited film I saw, I thought he was more of a facilitator than scorer. He certainly made some passes that made me believe he thinks like a true PG. It's awfully hard to judge going on highlight videos but his videos showed a lot of passing, which is rare for non-PGs. Usually its just 3's and Dunks if they are a score 1st type of guy.

I might just like the idea of a 6'5" PG that can defend multiple positions.
 
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Last weekend was the Illini's first tournament appearance since 2013. Our current coaching staff had losing records their first two years here. Some of the kids being pursued this cycle have never stepped on campus or met the coaches in person due to the pandemic. Until very recently, the Illini have been an afterthought to kids who are now in high school; they were toddlers the last time we were relevant. Give it time. The current publicity should help in '22, '23 and down the road, if the success can be sustained.
Just as a case study, Stanford hasn't exactly been better than us in the time frame we're talking, and certainly not the last two years, but for 2021 has the #12 and #44 recruits per 247, and in 2020 had the #6 recruit. And the kids we're talking about recently, Boakye/Burnett/TyTy are deciding right now. They're well aware of our recent success.
 
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Joel Goodson

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Going by the limited film I saw, I thought he was more of a facilitator than scorer. He certainly made some passes that made me believe he thinks like a true PG. It's awfully hard to judge going on highlight videos but his videos showed a lot of passing, which is rare for non-PGs. Usually its just 3's and Dunks if they are a score 1st type of guy.

I might just like the idea of a 6'5" PG that can defend multiple positions.
Underwood does too.
 
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Just as a case study, Stanford hasn't exactly been better than us in the time frame we're talking, and certainly not the last two years, but for 2021 has the #12 and #44 recruits per 247, and in 2020 had the #6 recruit. And the kids we're talking about recently, Boakye/Burnett/TyTy are deciding right now. They're well aware of our recent success.
The three in question are also all guys who made a commitment and then backed off it for one reason or another. They are young. These are big decisions. I'm not saying it is necessarily due to a character flaw in any of these young men, but having conviction and perseverance would be attributes I would covet as a coach.

That said...I'd still take them if they changed their minds.... lol
 
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I think the writing's been on the wall with Burnett for a little while now. Let's hope the Illini staff can figure out how to land TyTy. I think next year's squad could really use another ballhandler.
 
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Makes more sense than Auburn...

Nate Oats is doing a heck of a job with that program. I suppose the silver lining there is that if that is the case, Nate isn't likely leaving for IU.
I'm not sure the two are related at all. I would assume that if Oats is looking at other jobs, he's not sharing that info with recruits, and that while he's the coach at Alabama he's fully recruiting for Alabama.
 
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I'm not sure the two are related at all. I would assume that if Oats is looking at other jobs, he's not sharing that info with recruits, and that while he's the coach at Alabama he's fully recruiting for Alabama.

He’s not leaving Alabama unless a blue blood job comes open.

Dude is recruiting with the elite and flipped that program overnight. They will pay him whatever he wants.
 
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He’s not leaving Alabama unless a blue blood job comes open.

Dude is recruiting with the elite and flipped that program overnight. They will pay him whatever he wants.
Indiana used to be a blue blood. There's not a 0% chance he's establishing a relationship with NB now and then recruits him to whichever school he's at next season.

I don't think he's going anywhere either but as we know a lot can happen in a short amount of time.
 
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Seeing the Boakye news and saw mention of Josh Christopher. Holy moly did that kid fall off the face of the earth by going to ASU. Played decently well according to his stats but got zero national exposure.
 
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Seeing the Boakye news and saw mention of Josh Christopher. Holy moly did that kid fall off the face of the earth by going to ASU. Played decently well according to his stats but got zero national exposure.
He’s still gonna be pick in the top 40 in the draft. Probably not a great choice to play alongside Alonzo Verge and Remy Martin who’ve never seen a shot they didn’t like but he’s still got all the tools
 
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He’s still gonna be pick in the top 40 in the draft. Probably not a great choice to play alongside Alonzo Verge and Remy Martin who’ve never seen a shot they didn’t like but he’s still got all the tools
I thought I read that Verge and Martin are pursuing professional opportunities instead of returning for their extra year. Christopher is obviously gone. And now Jaelen House has entered the transfer portal. I think Boakye might get 40 shots per game.
 
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I thought I read that Verge and Martin are pursuing professional opportunities instead of returning for their extra year. Christopher is obviously gone. And now Jaelen House has entered the transfer portal. I think Boakye might get 40 shots per game.

Yup and the only person in the midwest / east coast who will watch him play is probably Jon Rothstein.
 
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