The only non conference game from when I was a kid was llini versus Notre Dame in Chicago. I believe it was New Year's Eve but I don't know how many years it lasted.
Illinois 88, Missouri 63 Postgame
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
TMI....................on Ozark , I read an article about season # 4 's release taking 15 month's from completion of filming ......Netflix has to do dubbing for non-american audiences and other things ....i will be watching it when it air's.
Well the staff should get a good idea of what they have in Dainja since he can practice with the team the second semester. If they think we need another Big, they will look in the portal. Scholarships will open up as they always do when kids leave for whatever reason (I don't like naming names).
socalini
- So Cali
The most populous areas of So ILL get all of their local news / media from St. Louis tv and radio stations. So, growing up, we heard about Mizzou sports all the time. As I've said before on here, when I was growing up (70s/80s), UMSL Soccer got more tic in STL media coverage than ILLINI sports did. I think that's why so many of us who ended up at Illinois see them as a big rival (or at least as someone we would like to pummel every chance we get).
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This is true. One poster on their board still seriously insists that Underwood is a “bad fit” at Illinois. It’s comical.
Govoner Vaugn Fan
- New Orleans
I do not hate any rivals, but simply pity their fate when they have the misfortune of facing the Illini. In those rare games when the Illini opponent is victorious, they did not really win but simply accumulated more points due to luck, bad officiating, or miscues by the Illini players.... Things that will easily be corrected in time for the next game. Regardless of opponent, the Illini are always the Eliterest and rightly deserving of the win. Always pity the opponent.
Tacomallini
- Washington State
FIFY, and I agree 100%
Worst hands since George Montgomery.
Just a thought on this game. How many games are played every season at a neutral site where there are 9000 fans from both schools and none of any other school? Mizzou plays Kansas every year....but home and home. Maybe Cincy and Xavier compares, but that is also home and home. Same with KY and Louisville and all the others of which I am aware. It is unique. I have never been to the game, but have watched every one I could and have been to the arena for several games. Great venue with many great dining opportunities nearby.
It is my sincere desire to see this game on the schedule the rest of my life....and for the Illini to win every one. But I do hope Mizzou can improve their program. Blowouts serve no one well.
It is my sincere desire to see this game on the schedule the rest of my life....and for the Illini to win every one. But I do hope Mizzou can improve their program. Blowouts serve no one well.
No. Emphatic no.
Having Braggin’ Rights is an annual opportunity to showcase Illinois basketball to a regional if not national audience. It is a Named Game.
In Washington State they have an annual football game called The Apple Cup.
The UW holds a 74-33-6 record in 120 years of play over WSU. There is NO talk whatsoever of ending the game.
Plenty of big rivalry series are fairly one-sided. I’m not following your logic.
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Nnanna Egwu is right up there.
Big effort post to question a successful Named game rivalry.
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Tacomallini
- Washington State
Hard to believe BU wouldn't have taken Javon Pickett back. I have no reason to doubt the posters that say it was so, but just thinking of the state of the program at the time and how good he's been in Braggin' Rights games (up until last night, that is). I guess Illinois was harder up for bigs or there was something that made BU think he wasn't an every day guy. Thankfully the days of Matic Vesel have passed, or Parker Braun turning down an Illinois scholarship to walk-on at Mizzou.
Big Jack
- Decatur
I was thinking more like Nanna
I grew up in southern Illinois. I have lived and worked in the metro east since 1989. I am not a Missouri fan or hater. But I can say there are too many Miznoz fans on this side of the river for my tastes. Also, too many good basketball and football players from the Metro East have been lost to Missouri. So put a beat down on them every chance we get to make Miznoz less appealing.
Agreed. That having been said I would take either guy on my team in a heartbeat. Both guys gave all they had to give.
Mark who?
Tacomallini
- Washington State
Well, I could've gone without reading this. I've never been more glad to be rid of Weber.
“The thing that surprised me about him is his athleticism and his strength,” Weber said. “I always tell him he’s a man child and he needs to use that body.” Weber has actually been saying things like that to Smith since he was in high school.
Finding another non con team to play every year at a neutral site that would generate the interest and attendance would be difficult.
You gonna play KY in Paducah every year? Would love to hear your suggestions.
We used to play Notre Dame in Chicago every year during the 60s. Pretty good series.
But it isn't a national game, not anymore and I think there is some reasoning behind that for the major networks. It doesn't mean much to anyone but Illinois and Missouri fans which is fine. Reasons, well I think I have gone on long enough on my reasons. But I guess it basically boils down to Illinois can do better. And I was more interested in the existential reason(s) as far as why Missouri? Why not a duck? (any Marx brothers fans here should get that reference). But seriously folks, why not someone else? Someone a step up from Missouri. I think we, well, most of us, would soon forget the Braggin' Rights games after 20 or so games with Kentucky over a span of the same number of years (that is just an example, I actually have no idea who could or would replace Missouri). We would adapt. Humans are quite adept at adapting.
I think your example of the Apple Cup is completely different. That is a game between Washington State and Univ. of Washington the two biggest state schools. Heck, if I lived in Washington I would probably like to see that every year, too. I just think it is different kind of deal. But aside from that example of being one sided and that plenty of rivalries are one sided, do you have more examples, at the major college level? Or maybe I should limit it to basketball college level. I can already think of one example in football; just about anyone Notre Dame plays every year, like Navy. Although I am not sure you would call that a rivalry. It may be just typical Notre Dame year in and year out playing the softest schedule they can.
Also, some of the responses to my posts have mentioned about how it is a fertile recruiting zone. Which I get. But how many St. Louis area players have we gotten over the years? I have no idea as I don't follow recruiting very much. So maybe a lot for all I know but I don't see anyone from that area currently on the team. Illinois did pretty well with Tilmon, Pickett and Smith all from the St. Louis area all committing before BU came and then two de-committed so that was kind of wash. Also, Illinois emphasis has always been Chicago (and Peoria). Hasn't always worked, of course.
But like I said earlier I don't really care one way or the other. It's fine if we keep playing Missouri but I just think we can do better (as I have said almost ad nauseum now). After all, there was a big rivalry game between Illinois and Missouri in football, the Arch Game?, that went from 1975 to 2010. It even engendered the Braggin' Rights series. That one was stopped, albeit I know it is going to be resurrected in a few years. I do not know why it was stopped although Illinois did not fare well. Maybe that was why although I am sure no one in an official capacity would admit that.
sacraig
- The desert
Nnanna was an absolute ball hawk on D, though. A blocking machine.
Considering his season average numbers are woeful outside of this game, it’s a literal fact that he’s not an every-day-guy.
More like a “play well when I’m motivated by being spurned” guy.
His performance last night is more indicative of his normal performance so it’s good BU didn't use a scholarship on him.
Speaking of Parker Braun I was just about to post a little tidbit about him. I came across his name while I was looking up the Illinois Missouri stats. I seem to remember that he came down to either Illinois or Missouri and as Tacoma said he not only chose Missouri but went as preferred walk on and turned down a full scholarship. Anyway, he transferred this year to Santa Clara. Not doing too badly there. He is a starter, just under 9 points a game, and 6.3 rebounds.
My bad, I was a kid and I roll with pru.