St Louis Cardinals 2023

[NEIlliniFan]

This article discusses the shortstop situation - DeJong, Edman, Donovan and Winn - as Opening Day 2023 approaches

Backup Shortstop Brendan Donovan?

Is the combination of Paul DeJong’s injuries and younger players’ solid play increasing the possibility of the St. Louis Cardinals trading their veteran shortstop? Perhaps Brendan Donovan as the re…

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[Se Il Illini]

I've been listening to a rebroadcast of the 1946 World Series. St Louis vs Boston performed by John Rayburn.

I rented it on Hoopla.
https://www.hoopladigital.com/

You can get it on Audible too.
https://www.audible.com/pd/1946-St-...eativeId=0d6f6720-f41c-457e-a42b-8c8dceb62f2c

It's interesting to hear some of the differences between the game in the 40's and today's game. Several times the team that was losing allowed their pitcher to bat in the 6th or 7th inning.

They never ever talked about pitch counts.

The winning pitcher in 5 of the first 6 games pitched a complete game. Howie Pollet pitched the full 10 innings in the first game. And lost. So a total of 6 CG games in the series. No closers of course.

It was more of a pitchers duel than I would have thought. 2 shutouts. A one run game. A two run game. 5 times one of the two teams scored three runs. Twice that was the winning team. Three times a team scored three runs. They won each time. There were only two blow outs sort of. Boston won 4-0. Cards 12-3

There were more errors than I expected. Pesky had 4. Marty Marion 2 Red Schoendienst had 1.

In tiny Fenway and Sportsman Park, there were only a combined 5 HRs. St Louis hit only 1.

Other interesting tidbits. Bill Zuber was the first (only?) Amish major league player. A lot of comments about players who miss time due to World War 2. One of the Boston players played for the Phil A's but he worked in a war time factory. He only played in games on weekends when the team was playing games that were "close".

Bob Gibson pitched several complete games, where he was the losing pitcher.

 

[wpr]

Bob Gibson pitched several complete games, where he was the losing pitcher.

I was wondering how many complete game losses he had. I couldn't find it. What I found was something I have seen before.

This is off the Cardinal reddit page.

The most incredible stat about the late Bob Gibson is that he pitched more complete games (255) than he had wins (251). The man was his own bullpen. RIP.

As long as we are talking about Gibby, we spoke of his 9 pitch inning before. Here's a little more on it.

3: Bob Gibson threw exactly three strikes to Len Gabrielson (out #1), exactly three pitches to Paul Popovich (out #2), then exactly three pitches to John Miller (out #3), during the seventh inning of a game played on May 12, 1969, the first known Immaculate Inning (9 Pitches - 9 Strikes - 3 Outs) in Cardinals history.

 

[pruman91]

Cardinals, Masyn Winn ride nine-run inning to spring training rout of Miami Marlins 16-2

Cardinals prospect Masyn Winn went 3 for 4 with a double and a triple in a 16-2 spring training win against the Miami Marlins on March 17, 2023.

www.stltoday.com

Lynn Worthy
JUPITER, Fla. — Cardinals prospect Masyn Winn made the Miami Marlins co-stars in his laser show on Friday afternoon. By the fifth inning, the dynamic 20-year-old notched three of the four components needed to hit for the cycle.
Winn finished the day having gone 3 for 4 with four RBIs, a double and a triple as he raised his batting average in Grapefruit League games to .333 this spring training.
The Cardinals rolled to a 16-2 win over the Marlins in front of an announced crowd of 4,260 at Roger Dean Stadium. The Cardinals smacked 17 hits, including four extra-base hits (four doubles, two triples), and broke the game open with a nine-run top of the second inning.
The Cardinals waited patiently on Marlins left-hander Trevor Rogers to come back into the strike zone, and then peppered his offerings all around the ballpark when he complied.

 

[Chad Fleck]

The World Baseball Classic has been amazing.

If you haven't watched, you should start to.

 

[Ryllini]

Please sweet baby Jesus, let Arenado be OK. Hit by a pitch in right hand. Looked to be on the fingers.

 

[Dee_4_Three_83]

Please sweet baby Jesus, let Arenado be OK. Hit by a pitch in right hand. Looked to be on the fingers.

Judging from his reaction when he went down to the dugout, he is fine.

 

[whatahack]

Rosenthal reports x rays were negative...no broken bones

 

[pruman91]

BenFred: Ten Cardinals takes with 10 days until opener, starting with Jake Woodford’s dominance

Woodford answered the bell. Wainwright should start opening day. Walker should be there to see it. And more!

www.stltoday.com

Ben Frederickson

JUPITER, Fla. — Cardinals manager Oli Marmol stopped short of saying it, and Jake Woodford prefers to let his pitching do the talking, so I’ll be the one who ventures out onto a limb that grows sturdier by the start.
Woodford’s on the opening-day roster. If not, a Cardinal sin has been committed.
Last season the right-hander was more effective than the Cardinals would publicly acknowledge. Since then, he’s taken the feedback the team gave him and put it to good use, adjusting his slider to produce results that should make his arsenal and approach more sustainable at the major-league level. He didn’t pout. He performed.
“I could have been frustrated, but that’s not going to get me anywhere,” Woodford said Monday about often riding the Memphis shuttle last season. “To me, that wasn’t really a choice. There’s only one way forward. They wanted me to work on certain things. I went home and worked on certain things. Getting frustrated doesn’t get you anywhere.”

Woodford has had a great spring and it got even better Monday, when he shoved five scoreless innings against the Marlins in the Cardinals’ 5-0 exhibition win. His Grapefruit League ERA is down to 2.04 through 17 2/3 innings. He’s totaled five more strikeouts (18) than he’s allowed hits (13), with just five walks.

 

[wpr]

BenFred: Ten Cardinals takes with 10 days until opener, starting with Jake Woodford’s dominance

Woodford answered the bell. Wainwright should start opening day. Walker should be there to see it. And more!

www.stltoday.com

Ben Frederickson

JUPITER, Fla. — Cardinals manager Oli Marmol stopped short of saying it, and Jake Woodford prefers to let his pitching do the talking, so I’ll be the one who ventures out onto a limb that grows sturdier by the start.
Woodford’s on the opening-day roster. If not, a Cardinal sin has been committed.
Last season the right-hander was more effective than the Cardinals would publicly acknowledge. Since then, he’s taken the feedback the team gave him and put it to good use, adjusting his slider to produce results that should make his arsenal and approach more sustainable at the major-league level. He didn’t pout. He performed.
“I could have been frustrated, but that’s not going to get me anywhere,” Woodford said Monday about often riding the Memphis shuttle last season. “To me, that wasn’t really a choice. There’s only one way forward. They wanted me to work on certain things. I went home and worked on certain things. Getting frustrated doesn’t get you anywhere.”

Woodford has had a great spring and it got even better Monday, when he shoved five scoreless innings against the Marlins in the Cardinals’ 5-0 exhibition win. His Grapefruit League ERA is down to 2.04 through 17 2/3 innings. He’s totaled five more strikeouts (18) than he’s allowed hits (13), with just five walks.

After his latest performance I was thinking he would make the rotation. Then I realized the politics involved in sports. He's not as high of a profile player so he's looking at BP duty until someone else fails or is injured.

 

[IlliniFaninHoosierLand]

Latest Cardinals roster updates as we get closer to end of spring training:

-Hudson and Liberatore optioned to Memphis; Jake Woodford now expected to be 5th starter
-DeJong suffered a setback with his back injury and is likely to start season on IL

 

[NEIlliniFan]

Cardinals already have five incumbent starters: Wainwright, Mikolas, Matz, Montgomery and Flaherty. Barring injury (always a possibility), Woodford is either the long man or sent to Memphis.

 

[IlliniFaninHoosierLand]

Cardinals already have five incumbent starters: Wainwright, Mikolas, Matz, Montgomery and Flaherty. Barring injury (always a possibility), Woodford is either the long man or sent to Memphis.

Right. Yeah, I had forgotten about Montgomery. Woodford is the long man or spot starter on the Opening Day roster with Hudson and Liberatore getting moved down.

 

[GILL-INOIS]

Wainwright is going on injured list and miss at least a few weeks with groin injury

 

[pruman91]

Wainwright is going on injured list and miss at least a few weeks with groin injury

I guess that means Woodford goes into Waino's spot as they already sent out Hudson to Memphis...........I don't think Hudson has the control to ever be a CONSISTANT starter for the Cardinals FO point of view.......

Bradford has done more than enough to become a starter and see what he accomplishes......JMHO

BTW , today was the first game of the cardinals I;ve been able to watch this spring and wow, I really didn't realize how big Jordan Walker is.....................he's Aaron Judge big.....................

 

[IlliniFaninHoosierLand]

Bradford has done more than enough to become a starter and see what he accomplishes......JMHO

BTW , today was the first game of the cardinals I;ve been able to watch this spring and wow, I really didn't realize how big Jordan Walker is.....................he's Aaron Judge big.....................

Bradford?

Judge is 6'7'', 282 lbs. Walker is close in height but I doubt he's close to that in weight.

 

[GILL-INOIS]

Walker is real good size but I have never seen another MLB player the size of Judge. Judge is a beast and honestly hope his body can hold up long term but not sold on that yet.

Judge got called up at age 24 while playing sparingly and then played full time the next season at age 25. Walker will be 21 two months from now. He needs to play everyday and not sit on the bench. Has very little time in the minors and needs some AAA time. Breaking balls will not be his friend and will take some to adjust too. It will be fun to watch his game grow and potentially him physically as well...

 

[wpr]

I tried to link the story but I am on my phone and it's not cooperating. Miles Mikolas is signing a long term deal. Go to Stltoday for details.

 

[the juiceman cometh]

I tried to link the story but I am on my phone and it's not cooperating. Miles Mikolas is signing a long term deal. Go to Stltoday for details.

2 year extension for $40MM. I believe some of that is being tacked onto this year's salary.

 

[pruman91]

All-Star pitcher Miles Mikolas, Cardinals agree on multi-year extension: Sources

Mikolas led the Cardinals with more than 200 innings pitched this past season, and since returning from Japan has been an a two-time All-Star.

www.stltoday.com

JUPITER, Fla. — A day after a teammate predicted that Miles Mikolas would finish top five in the voting for the National League Cy Young Award with the Cardinals this coming season, the All-Star right-hander finalized an agreement that will assure his next few seasons will also be with the Cardinals.
Mikolas, a two-time All-Star and Jupiter native, as has agreed to a two-year., $40-million contract extension with the Cardinals, sources told the Post-Dispatch.
An official announcement is expected Friday afternoon.

 

[pruman91]

Minor league report: Cardinals prospect Cooper Hjerpe strikes out six in backfield game

Cooper Hjerpe threw 2 2/3 innings, allowed on runs, and struck out six while walking one in a seven-inning game against fellow Cardinals prospects.

www.stltoday.com

Top pitching prospects Cooper Hjerpe and Gordon Graceffo took the mound on the backfields on Thursday at the Cardinals training complex in Jupiter, Fla where they faced fellow prospects in an intrasquad game.
These are some of the notable performances from Thursday’s minor league action, according to stats provided by the Cardinals:

Left-handed pitcher Cooper Hjerpe: The Cardinals’ first-round pick from the 2022 draft struck out six batters, allowed one run, and walked one in 2 2/3 innings vs. a Springfield working group. The one run Hjerpe gave up came on a solo homer. Hjerpe, 22, did not appear in an official minor league game following last year’s draft. The Cardinals took a cautious approach with the left-hander after he threw 103 1/3 innings across 18 games for Oregon State University.

 

[IlliniFaninHoosierLand]

2 year extension for $40MM. I believe some of that is being tacked onto this year's salary.

It is. He gets a $5 million signing bonus and a $3 million boost to his salary for this season ($15.75 million to $18.75 million). He will make $16 million/season in 2024 and 2025.

He was also announced as the Opening Day starter vs. Toronto.

 

[wpr]

2 year extension for $40MM. I believe some of that is being tacked onto this year's salary.

Yeah I misread the original statement. I thought the story said it was a "long term" deal meaning 5 years. When I went back to look at it I saw it was only a 2 year deal. Thanks for correcting it.

 

[pruman91]

Media Views: Brad Thompson set to be analyst on more than 100 BSM Cardinals telecasts

Bally Sports Midwest, which is scheduled to carry about 150 Cards games this season, has made Brad Thompson its lead baseball analyst. He is set to call about 110 games;

www.stltoday.com

Dan Caesar

It will be Thompson time on Cardinals telecasts this season. Not every time, but most times.
Bally Sports Midwest, which is scheduled to carry about 150 Cards games this season, has made Brad Thompson its lead baseball analyst. He is set to call about 110 games; Jim Edmonds has the roughly 40 others. The BSM schedule is not precise, because what national carriers decide to do with some games could change the number.

Thompson is eager get going in his expanded role alongside new BSM Cards play-by-play announcer Chip Caray. They are to be in the booth on Thursday afternoon, when the team plays its regular-season opener.

 

[pruman91]

Hey, Big Spender: The Cardinals must hurdle some high-dollar rivals in the National League

The Mets are one of four National League teams to guarantee more than $300 million this past winter to free agents

www.stltoday.com

In the afterglow of a season with full capacity and no labor angst, Major League Baseball clubs went on a spending binge, and few spent more than a collection of teams in the National League. Call it keeping up with the Cohens.
The New York Mets committed nearly $500 million to free agents — and were seeking to do more before nixing an agreement with shortstop Carlos Correa. The Mets are one of four NL teams to guarantee more than $300 million this past winter to free agents. Here are a look at five blockbuster spenders the Cardinals must hurdle for the pennant, and No. 1 isn’t the new free-spending king of Queens. Heck, the Mets aren’t even No. 2: