If not now. I'd expect about the four minute mark of the first game.
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Thats included in "completely different builds"
sacraig
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Yeah, but how much of that is neck?
Builds has nothing to do with height, most likely 75% of the males at U of I have a better vertical than faster in the 3 cone race tha Luka Doncic but it sure doesn't make them a better point guard. Why don't we fans wait and see what happens before we criticize a player.
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Kind of bold considering that Nic outplayed him in Spain by most reports.
A Sports Illustrated writer is saying that a person in the program is saying that Domask is clearly our second best player.
I didn't call it or anything but I was definitely hoping this would be the word. I think him being good allows Shannon to do a lot more off the ball and will make Shannon better overall, same for Hawkins.
In a perfect world Ty Rodgers or DGL is our second best player but I don't think that's realistic. So Domask being unexpectedly very good is a win for me
I didn't call it or anything but I was definitely hoping this would be the word. I think him being good allows Shannon to do a lot more off the ball and will make Shannon better overall, same for Hawkins.
In a perfect world Ty Rodgers or DGL is our second best player but I don't think that's realistic. So Domask being unexpectedly very good is a win for me
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Dainja looking lean. From Baby Huey to this: he's flippin' motivated. Man, he could be a force this season.
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lstewart53x3
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Starting 5:
Ty
TSJ
Domask
Hawkins
Dainja
Ty
TSJ
Domask
Hawkins
Dainja
Right, it would be great if Domask unexpectedly very well. But, when we carefully checked the numbers from last season, Domask shot worse percentagewise than Goode in every category (2s, 3s, and FT), and Domask had lower rates of blocks per min played and rebounds per min played. Domask's only advantages over Goode based on last season's stats were in assists per min played and steals per min played.
In other words, until his "unexpectedly very good" play, outperforms Goode, then, at least in my opinion, Domask doesn't yet deserve a starting role and any extra mins that go with that over Luke Goode.
But, sure, I hope Domask plays great too. I hope they all do!
Mr. Gibbs or Mr. Lawhorn, tell the coaches. No one on here makes out the lineup.
Goode was 2/2 from the FT line last year, for his career (which is only 8 attempts) he has shot worse than Domask. Luke's career 2p% is also below Domask's in a much more limited role.
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I don't think Domask is really unexpected. The guy was the best player on SIU as a freshman and continued to be for 4 years.
This isn't a Jon Ekey situation, this kid would have been flirting with a 2000 pt career at SIU without an injury shortened sophomore year.
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I would kind of hope someone who has only functioned in a catch and shoot or garbage bucket role would have a higher shooting percentage than someone who was the focal point of the offense. One takes all the easy looks the other creates. Comparing Goode and Domask's numbers is like comparing Goode to TSJ. It just doesn't make sense because they don't play the same position or role in the offense.
I’d be interested to see his foul rate when limited to P5 opponents or conference opponents.
Stop. Comparing. Goode. And. Domask.
Just because they are both white doesn't mean they are similar players or play the same role. They are completely different players
No way 75% of the male students at the UofI are even in the ballpark athletically of anyone in the NBA. People don't understand the above average athleticism it takes to play even at the D1 level.... and especially in the NBA.
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Here's a good article (albeit about football) that puts into perspective the relative difference in athleticism between an average human and a professional athlete.
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Here's a good article (albeit about football) that puts into perspective the relative difference in athleticism between an average human and a professional athlete.
Are we going to see Hawkins and Dain on the floor together? I expect those two to cover the center position and not to play together unless. Makes me wonder how we'll deal with Purdue --tallest guy on the roster is Hawkins.
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This could be confirmation bias, but Edey seems to struggle more against undersized lineups than teams with a true big. Reason likely is that the true big isn't used to going up against people taller than them and so Edey throws them off when they're on defense as they're more used to bully ball and being imposing against smaller weaker opponents. And then on the offensive end the big usually doesn't have the mobility to get Edey in trouble for his flatfootedness.
Smaller lineups on the other hand seems to pester Edey more as double teams tend to be quicker and more frequent, and defenders are quicker and typically will get better position than him, especially if they have a stout lower body they can use to bump him off his spots.
That said, one thing with Edey that should be said is that the refs seem to struggle calling games with him. Not sure why, but he does seem to get a lot more leniency from refs than bigs traditionally get in the B10, which could also be why it's frustrating as a big to go against him.
I assume we will see some lineups with both on the floor, but it will be rare when we play without one of them. I think Amani can handle the 5 in small doses. (He doesn't look like a typical freshman) You aren't going to guard Edey 1 on 1 no matter who you have out there.
I think some teams fell for the illusion that their big guy could slow him down w/o doubling. I think having a bunch of "small" quick guys around him confuses him more because he doesn't know where the double is coming from, and quicker guys can recover more easily after they double. You just can't let him get comfortable. You constantly have to change up the looks.
Who doesn't expect Domask to be very good? You're talking about a top 25 ppg scorer in MVC history. Comparing the stats of a guy who has never averaged less than 30 minutes and 13 points a game in a season to a guy who has never played 30 minutes or scored 13 points in a single game doesn't make a lot of sense.
Agree with you on Edey on all fronts. Also, last Coleman played him about as well as anyone has played him straight up, using quickness and leverage to keep Edey off of his spots.
Just one more point too with the smaller guys is it works both ways in that Edey is uncomfortable guarding outside the paint. FDU got a little lucky that their 6’6ish center hit a couple of 3s that he normally didn’t, but he was also wide open because Edey didn’t want to leave the paint. And if memory serves, 2 years ago we switched to our lineup up of death with Coleman at the 5 and, although we lost the game, basically played Edey off the floor in the year he won DPOY. Which was garbage. A DPOY should never be played off the floor no matter the matchup.
I see Luke and Marcus both playing the 3. One possible strategy is to have Luke starting and bringing Marcus off the bench as the primary scorer when TJ is out. Also see Q at the 4 when Hawk is at the 5 to have some bulk and rebounding. All of us are guessing at this point and I suspect the coaches will still be defining the roles into the season. Depth seems great but has seemed that way early on in several seasons but hasn’t materialized.
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