Probably here. Dan will likely have a link as soon as it is available.Any word on where to watch this presser?
I really doubt there will be much of anything to learn out of the statement he gives anywayAny word on where to watch this presser?
Don’t know where to watch, but I imagine it will be streamed on WDWS.Any word on where to watch this presser?
Unfortunately, men and women have consensual one night stands one person may not want to date or a relationship... In the past I've seen from others that were hurt emotionally for choosing to have a one night stand be livid a few times spread lies and rumors about others but the difference is they just talked crap or were emotional.
Take the "unconsensual" out of your post and and the post you're addressing makes all kinds of sense.
Of all the scenarios presented so far, State of Chicago just really rings true. That's why Brad and Josh saw nothing wrong with letting Shannon play. They didn't think it was going anywhere. Not to say that B&J didn't sit down and have a long talk with Shannon...
Mine too! I was MUCH more excited prior to about 1pm yesterday, but the show must go on & the boys that are suiting up need our support.Headed there right now as well! My daughter’s first game!
TSJ left his mark on the program. If that was the last time we ever see him in an Illini uniform, he did the fanbase proud. He will do the fanbase even more proud if he is found not guilty of this chargeAnd what a game it was.
I doubt it too. JW will be very succinct with his statements and we likely won't get much insight. But, one thing that should be done by the media is to question what they knew, how much they knew, and why they let TSJ play if there were allegations swirling around. It really does our program no good knowing that we built this team around TSJ as the face and now have to basically reconfigure everything midseason. I would've rather they knew about the allegations and advised TSJ to step away from the team so the team wouldn't have to face the after effects of what is going on now. I feel like this is where JW and BU went wrong. This team could have had more time to learn how to play without TSJ and now we're almost midway through the year. It's going to be very difficult for BU, staff, and players to mentally re-group and move forward without their brother. But, to also be fair, BU has a history of completely overhauling offensive schemes midway through the year when the original schemes were deemed to not be successful. So, this isn't totally new for BU to have to change things on the flyI really doubt there will be much of anything to learn out of the statement he gives anyway
Same. My information comes from the law enforcement side - I was told the victim alleged he fingered her in a bar after the football game. And that she initially said it was a football player but after seeing TSJ’s image, identified him. Seems like the same story is coming from multiple angles. I was also told he gave a dna sample and admitted to being in that bar that evening.I have a little more for this.
I’ve seen people talking about the tweet and rumor talking about TSJ at a bar with the girl and some confusion of him being on the football team or not. Idk if this is the same stories a couple of insiders have referenced to, but I can add a tiny inkling of validity to it.
In no way am I an insider, but I have a friend who tutored athletes from both the basketball and football teams a few years ago before graduating, and he knows someone still directly in the program. His friend in the program said the story of TSJ fingering a girl at the bar is the story that is apparently believed in the program and what TSJ claimed happened. I haven’t read everything in this thread but did see people mentioning this story and how it wasn’t valid because it was from a ?tweet?. Just wanted to add that it may be more valid than just an online rumor.
I have to assume that based on the information they were operating under, the investigation resulting in an actual charge came as a surprise. That being said, I doubt they admit that today. Maybe something along the lines of, "the charge being filed was the first credible, actionable information we received to warrant a suspension" or something similar. They didn't just let him play, they made him the face of the program. Giant post-game hugs included from Josh. Have to believe they were at least a little surprised by this outcome, whether prepared for it or not.I doubt it too. JW will be very succinct with his statements and we likely won't get much insight. But, one thing that should be done by the media is to question what they knew, how much they knew, and why they let TSJ play if there were allegations swirling around. It really does our program no good knowing that we built this team around TSJ as the face and now have to basically reconfigure everything midseason. I would've rather they knew about the allegations and advised TSJ to step away from the team so the team wouldn't have to face the after effects of what is going on now. I feel like this is where JW and BU went wrong. This team could have had more time to learn how to play without TSJ and now we're almost midway through the year. It's going to be very difficult for BU, staff, and players to mentally re-group and move forward without their brother. But, to also be fair, BU has a history of completely overhauling offensive schemes midway through the year when the original schemes were deemed to not be successful. So, this isn't totally new for BU to have to change things on the fly
I am sure BU and JW knew the allegations and thought that NO charges would ever be brought. I am sure they believe he did nothing criminal. I am also guessing when we hear the actual "facts" of "alleged assault" we will be even more in disbelief that we lost our AA player and potential special season over said "allegation." Time will tell.They didn't just let him play, they made him the face of the program. Giant post-game hugs included from Josh. Have to believe they were at least a little surprised by this outcome, whether prepared for it or not.
To the legal scholars among us….If the bar story is true, is there any hope TSJ suits up for the illini again?
Necessary disclaimer - I'm no insider.If the bar story is true, is their any hope TSJ suits up for the illini again?
There has to be more to the story. I just cannot believe this results in a rape charge. I'm no lawyer, but I do have common sense. What an f'd up situation. I will say, Illinois has some of the toughest, most loyal fans in existence. The things they have been through boggle the mind.Same. My information comes from the law enforcement side - I was told the victim alleged he fingered her in a bar after the football game. And that she initially said it was a football player but after seeing TSJ’s image, identified him. Seems like the same story is coming from multiple angles. I was also told he gave a dna sample and admitted to being in that bar that evening.
Big Jim Thompson: I seem to recall a speech he made at The Assembly Hall (perhaps in advance of a conference basketball game) where he concluded the talk with “….and now it’s time to watch our Illini STOMP-ON-PURDUE!!!”The governor was in Kam's? I like the sound of the 80s
Whitman is in a total no win scenario. There are those who would not be happy unless Shannon is drawn and quartered on live TV (aka Dan Bernstein). There are others who would not be happy with anything less than a full throated, stand by my man Shannon defense. He has to try to walk the tightrope to protect the university and support his staff and athletes.I have to assume that based on the information they were operating under, the investigation resulting in an actual charge came as a surprise. That being said, I doubt they admit that today. Maybe something along the lines of, "the charge being filed was the first credible, actionable information we received to warrant a suspension" or something similar. They didn't just let him play, they made him the face of the program. Giant post-game hugs included from Josh. Have to believe they were at least a little surprised by this outcome, whether prepared for it or not.
Under the law in Kansas, any penetration is considered sexual intercourse and can lead to a rape charge.There has to be more to the story. I just cannot believe this results in a rape charge. I'm no lawyer, but I do have common sense. What an f'd up situation. I will say, Illinois has some of the toughest, most loyal fans in existence. The things they have been through boggle the mind.
If that’s what actually happened the sexual act was consensualIf the bar story is true, is their any hope TSJ suits up for the illini again?