Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ChiefGritty said:
Most of the other guys we're talking about are one and dones.

Taking 5 one-and-dones who will all expect major roles in their final season would be a really bad idea, imho. There needs to be more balance and homegrown development than that.

No slight to him, but I like Jake Davis' long term upside more than Jason Jakstys'. That's the way to think about it I think.
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He does appear to have a pretty good shot and fairly quick release. Also having his frame at 220lbs and 6'6" he has decent size. Sounds like a few guys are leaving and we need some guys to fill roles and can shoot.
 
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BretMyBeachHouse said:
Of course our staff is seeking that evolution. Is there an indication that Storr is?
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IMHO - absolutely, he was a big part of their great start when they were leading the big ten and he was the driving force for Wisky getting to the big ten title game after the wheels fell off their season.

Did he force some shots when the team was struggling- yes- but in the right environment and team around him, a 20 year old sophomore who is already one of the best players in the big ten is someone you take every time
 
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therealmiket86 said:
I don’t understand taking Davis this early
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HensonHall71 said:
a 20 year old sophomore who is already one of the best players in the big ten is someone you take every time
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Well no. You only do it when they fit in with the culture you've established. Your comment is a lot like what we heard said about Skyy.

With where we are today as a program there are no automatics based on talent.
 
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LvilleILL said:
Happy easter to all of you who celebrate! Going to pick some things up tomorrow, although there is a chance of a Jake Davis commitment today from what I have heard. Regardless, I expect 2-3 transfers out and 5-6 guys to come in, some fourth or fifth years and some multiple eligibility guys.

Staff wants two studs, a primary ball handler, a stretch 4, and a shooter with multiple years (Jake Davis) along with possibly one more guy
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I don't see any reason Coleman would stay but I imagine if he did Jake Davis wouldn't be here
 
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HailtotheChief said:
He is projected at 48 or so recently. I would consider a solid NIL sure deal like TSJ did but who knows. He may roll the dice like Kofi too.
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I agree. My point is players drafted 48th typically have limited to no NBA time. Pre NIL maybe you roll the dice. Post NIL when Illinois is likely to write you a large check, take the NIL, come back on a top 15 team and improve your game and improve your professional chances.
 
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STLini25 said:
I agree. My point is players drafted 48th typically have limited to no NBA time. Pre NIL maybe you roll the dice. Post NIL when Illinois is likely to write you a large check, take the NIL, come back on a top 15 team and improve your game and improve your professional chances.
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The way I always talk about it is - if the player's stock won't drop from another year and can only go up, why not cash in a nice fat check in a place where you are a local celebrity? We will pay more than a two way for Coleman.

Only counter arguments are draft class strength (this year's draft is badddddd) and injury possibility.
 
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Because let’s say Coleman comes back and shoots worse because Marcus and Shannon are gone and now he’s not getting the good looks the attention they drew got him. Plus next years draft is a lot better.
 
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turnaround3 said:
I’m assuming it must’ve been touched on previously at some point but someone’ll have to explain to me the rationale of Sencire to agree to stay to redshirt as a sophomore only to then turn around and jet as a junior.
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It was his idea.
 
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ChiefGritty

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STLini25 said:
I agree. My point is players drafted 48th typically have limited to no NBA time. Pre NIL maybe you roll the dice. Post NIL when Illinois is likely to write you a large check, take the NIL, come back on a top 15 team and improve your game and improve your professional chances.
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The problem is that the bolded isn't really true.

Even someone like TSJ didn't improve his draft stock all that significantly, the league knew what he had, his selection is just rising because the draft class got worse.

The NBA doesn't care how successful or dominant you are in college basketball, they care about you demonstrating translatable skills. Coleman has done that this year. He might do that LESS if he were a more primary scoring option for us next year.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at him coming back by any means, don't get me wrong, he'd help us a ton. But he's going to go pro and that's the right decision for his future as a basketball player.

Kofi made a big mistake that was ultimately just a bummer of a situation for all parties. This is not that.
 
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BU has proven so far that he can build a roster. Sometimes I think he thinks he’s elite at doing it and brings on guys that just don’t add up. For me I think Davis is one of these moments. I know he’s just a freshman but watch a full game of his. Warning he doesn’t start for Mercer so might have to wait before he enter’s. Personally I’m just not seeing it but apparently BU does and that’s the one that counts.
 
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Battle89

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Illinifan74 said:
We really just need a 7 footer to take up space, elbow people in the head, and throw people to the ground on the defensive end. Then they can get blown on too hard on offense, and get the foul call.
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If UConn ends up playing Purdue, who will the refs choose to favor? The vacuum of non-calls on both Edey and Clingan may create a black hole singularity in Phoenix.
 
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Re: Davis - If his shooting form is good and they think he could be a solid defender, seems like a good idea to add that kind of depth. Can never have enough shooters.
 
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JBfor3 said:
Why do people keep mentioning Kalkbrenner? I havent seen im in the portal or seen the insiders mention his name. If he is somehow an option, he would be the biggest get of this offseason.
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I believe his name was thrown out there by an insider a couple of weeks ago. I’m not sure why he’d want to leave his situation at Creighton but I also don’t really know anything.

We also recruited him out of high school fwiw
 
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I think the only reason TSJ isn't projected as a lottery pick is the off the court issue. Otherwise that would have been a major improvement by 20 or more spots by what I've read or heard.
 
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LvilleILL said:
Dain and Sencire I would expect to move on-Dain is much more certain as of now from what I have heard. Could see Nico moving on as well. Feel confident in Luke, Amani, Ty, and DGL all to be back
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Wow, we allowed sencire to grow, coach him, train him, redshirt, and leaves Luke that...wow
 
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