4 out of the last 5 tournaments at least one 2seed HASN’T made the sweet sixteen.
Who the 2seed is (assuming we’re a 3) is very important.
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Who the 2seed is (assuming we’re a 3) is very important.
I think he saw Indy do it once (whose smugness also drives me crazy, but at least he’s earned some right to be so), so now he does it to feel like he’s on the same level.He loves theemoji. Makes him feel that oh so delectable intellectual superiority. The Dunning Kruger effect that’s oh so prevalent on the internet.
I’m not superior to anyone else on here. If you don’t like what I have to say than you can go ahead and just ignore me…He loves the
Are we going to just erase our quad 1 wins across the board because our schedule/wins over the last month?
We have people who gave commented that Vanderbilt should be considered as a 3 seed because they beat Florida, completely ignoring an awful stretch. Same for Nebraska. Same with Purdue. Purdue was the #7 seed. Let's not forget that. They beat NW, a NB team that has been bad for weeks and a UCLA team without their two best players?
The whole season matters.
Seriously dude STOP. You are panicking and overreacting big time every time you post in here. And your avy doesn't help. Makes it seem like you walk around with a worried look all day.
Misunderstood your post….Carry on.
Anyone who is saying we’ll be a 4 needs to have their opinion on anything totally disregarded going forward. Absolute nonsense.
We are more like to be the last 2 or top 3. Committee shows again and again each year that the conference tournament results have no bearing on where your teams ends up. Their mind is largely made up at the end of the regular season.
The only thing I could see happening is moving Iowa State above us because we were virtually tied with them in each metric, but that’s it.
We are more like to be the last 2 or top 3. Committee shows again and again each year that the conference tournament results have no bearing on where your teams ends up. Their mind is largely made up at the end of the regular season.
The only thing I could see happening is moving Iowa State above us because we were virtually tied with them in each metric, but that’s it.
It's not that complex. Tomi, Z, and Andrej are all not playing well at all. Other teams now understand that Keaton is basically our only threat to create offense out there, they are shutting him down, and they are daring our other guys to beat them. Most of the time our other guys just aren't up to the challenge. Andrej in particular has been the biggest disappointment on our roster. We are paying him far more than any other player, and he just hasn't lived anywhere near up to expectations.
Our coaching staff, Brad in particular, have been very slow to adjust to situations on the court. Also, given how much we have regressed during the season, you can't help but wonder what we're doing in practice and how productive and well planned our practices actually are.
Committee chair said Illinois was a 4 seed in 2024 and they bumped us up to a 3 when we won the Big Ten tourney (if one wants to argue they did that after the semifinal not the final I wouldn’t argue they’re probably right though)
They do start seeding teams Wednesday or Thursday though so they essentially have to decide a win or wins are material enough to warrant a change. For example, they’ll probably take a fresh look at Wisco or Vandy given their big wins since they were originally seeded
It doesn’t matter if our Q1a wins were last week or in December. The committee has been clear year after year about that.
As for those talking about whether conference tournament games matter…of course they matter but no more so than any other game. The committee seems to have been quite clear about that as well.
My question to you is this: Had we beaten Wisconsin yesterday and lost by 3 to Michigan today, would we be a 2 seed?
Yes we would be the last 2 IMO
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I agree with your first point, but anyone who thinks the entire BTT doesn’t affect seeding should also not have his opinion be considered…
Acting like Iowa State beating TTU and us losing to Wisky didn’t swap us is delusional. So much for they had their minds made up. Clearly not.
We lost a 2 seed in the BTT. But thankfully Gonzaga couldn’t help its case and someone between Nebby/Purdue had to lose. Virginia and Vandy could push the Zags and Nebby down to the 4 line.
Purdue or MSU will get final 2 seed. Once again, Purdue played its way to a 2 seed opportunity in the BTT. Beating Michigan tomorrow will lock up the 2 seed over MSU for them.
Being a 2 vs. 3 seed matters. Potentially a difference between playing a 20th ranked vs. 28th ranked team in country.
Illinois would’ve had a 1 seed had they won the BTT. At least would’ve had a really good case.
It doesn't really affect it that much. Unless you are a bubble team like Ohio St or Indiana this year. I've seen it time and time again where a team does well in the BTT or wins it and they don't get a higher seed. Same thing when a team loses early. They don't all of a sudden jump down to 2 or 3 seed lines. I can't think of any team that is firmly in the tournament have their seed majorly affected by how they do in the BTT. 3 or 4 days is never going to be greater than the results of 3-4 months.
We have more chance of being a 2 than being a 4.
This means the BIG tournament matters. Because we are a 3 now, and likely a lower 3.
We are solidly a 3, because our midseason run gives us a lot of grace for our late season swoon.
Going back and forth over a possible 2 or 4 seed is like arguing with grandpa at Thanksgiving about which of your uncles was more drunk. What a waste of energy.
Going back and forth over a possible 2 or 4 seed is like arguing with grandpa at Thanksgiving about which of your uncles was more drunk. What a waste of energy.
The BTT tournament mattered hugely for us.
2 seeds make the Elite 8 more often than 3 seeds.
Purdue potentially steals MSU’s 2 seed tomorrow.
Once again, the BTT matters when MSU/us/PU/Nebby were SO closely bunched.
Context matters. Tired of folks incessantly parroting that committee mostly had its mind made up drivel.
Nebraska may have lost a 3 seed.
We lost a 2 seed.
MSU may lose a 2 seed. Purdue may gain one.
This weekend REALLY mattered for Big Ten teams.
Wisky could have played itself up to a 5 seed if not for a UM buzzer beater.
UCLA also could’ve moved to a 7 seed with a win over Purdue.
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Maybe historically, but I really dont see a huge difference between 2 and 3 seed this year. Geography will likely play a bigger factor than anything else. Honestly, if the Illini can't beat a 6 seed to make the S16, we would have likely lost to a 7 seed as well.
Basically negligible chance of both now so throwaway statement.
Vanderbilt concerns me a little bit. Bracket Matrix currently has them pretty substantially behind us, BUT they destroyed Florida and have a chance to pick up another quality win tomorrow. I am wondering aloud how far up they may move.
We needed Florida to win that tournament. Just something to consider.
We needed Florida to win that tournament. Just something to consider.
I don’t see the SEC or B1G finals moving the needle for anyone, Vanderbilt is 6-8 spots (not seeds) behind Illinois anyway
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