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#153      
I think Michigan still has yet to play the two most talented teams (Illinois and Iowa). They still have a lot to prove.

Couldn't disagree more. A couple weeks ago, I would have said they were good, but we didn't know how good. They've taken down too many good teams to doubt them. Officially 5-1 in Q1 games. And they pass the eye test. Very solid play, with multiple weapons, and able to get stops in close games.

Do I think Illinois can beat them? Absolutely. But I think we belong in the top-5 as well. Arguably top 4 after today.

I should add that I don't think we match up particularly well against them. Going to be a battle when we play them.
 
#154      
Improving? They beat IU yesterday and have lost 6 of their last 9 games. I mean it's a decent win against IU but they are not improving.

I mean, let's not get too dramatic here either way, but they went from a 30-point embarrassment to Iowa on their home floor to playing Purdue tough in West Lafayette to beating an IU team on their home floor that has been tough at home (beat Iowa, took us to OT). Throw in the rivalry factor, and a loss to MSU in one of those games isn't exactly of the same shock value as a loss to Nebraska is all I was trying to get at.
 
#155      
Illinois has been #4 in NET for a while now. Is there some other bracketology associated with that?

Literally changes and is updated as games are played.NET is a stand alone "predictor".
 
#156      
Well that's probably the end of our chance at a conference champ. At least we have the inside track for a 1 seed right now, which is good because I'd like to avoid Baylor, Gonzaga, and Michigan for as long as possible.
Anyone who thinks Michigan has locked up conference champs hasn't been paying attention to the conference this year.
 
#157      
I mean, let's not get too dramatic here either way, but they went from a 30-point embarrassment to Iowa on their home floor to playing Purdue tough in West Lafayette to beating an IU team on their home floor that has been tough at home (beat Iowa, took us to OT). Throw in the rivalry factor, and a loss to MSU in one of those games isn't exactly of the same shock value as a loss to Nebraska is all I was trying to get at.
Playing someone tough in this case Purdue does not mean you are improving. That Iowa was a couple of weeks ago not a couple of months ago. A loss is a loss no matter whether played tough or not. Winning at IU is not that impressive. MSU still has a long way to go.
 
#159      
Scottsdale, Arizona
Give me some of whatever you’re smoking. Even if we go 0-5, I don’t think we fall further than a 3 seed.
If we finish out the season 0-5, we’ll be at 16-10 on the season with a losing record in Quad 1 games. Probably ranked in 15-20 range. We aren’t getting a 3 seed.

A 5 might’ve been a bit extreme. Probably a 4.
 
#163      
the Front Range
Coach Underwood biggest recruiting whiff, Ej Liddle. We have no one on roster who can match up with him wow.. Maybe Ayo on perimeter and Granderson and Georgi down low. If rest of team beats us, so be it.
It wasn’t a whiff as more as Mark Smith trying to burn it all down on his way out. Liddell wanted no part of that political nonsense. It sucks that Underwood got sucked into the gutter on that. Mark Smith was a stain in our basketball history.
 
#165      
Coach Underwood biggest recruiting whiff, Ej Liddle. We have no one on roster who can match up with him wow.. Maybe Ayo on perimeter and Granderson and Georgi down low. If rest of team beats us, so be it.
Liddell never really considered us. Nothing Underwood could have done.
 
#166      
Nope not Mark Smith, Alan Griffin! Wow: alan 16.7 per game, 8 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks per game. No way he wouldve lost minutes to Granderson. He shooting high% from 3 , fiedl and nearly 80% from free throw line. Damn that hurts.
I think Sescillini meant losing Mark Smith hurt us in recruiting Liddell.
 
#167      
For me, raising a another banner in SFC is vastly reduced in importance. That is simply due to Covid and the discrepancy in the number of games played. That banner is greatly reduced and not important for Illini as they have improved their play, skills, and confidence every month. The B1G tournament title, therefore, has taken a significant leap in importance. No team can escape having to win to gain the title. And no team can avoid at least two games against the best in the league. Maybe a coach will publicly downplay some aspect....like resting his team or getting them to relax before the real grind to the final 6 games, but that means little. But, in all honesty, Michigan is a talented team that is playing well, gaining confidence.........and winning impressively. If they win the tournament, they deserve the accolades. But they will likely have to play the Illini twice....and that will prove defining for both teams. Let's support our guys to the end and forget about Cheatigan. I just want to see the step up in level of play continue for this special Illiini squad.
 
#168      
Scottsdale, AZ
Only if they base on percentage. We sweep our games and Mich loses to us...17-3 vs 15-2.

We need to sweep and let the chips fall and win B10 tourney.

We do all that and we will be a top seed in NCAA and know that we are playing our best basketball going to tourney.
The announcers of the Michigan OSU game today said on the broadcast that the final BIG ratings would be based upon winning percentages. However, maybe they made that comment up, but I doubt it.
 
#169      
Again...the only team that beats Illinois is...wait for it.....Illinois!

The team that showed up yesterday wins out.
Well, we looked really good yesterday and I hope that is the team we see the rest of the way, but the Minn team we played had one of their better players out with a broken finger, and a center that could barely run. Ohio State won in Champaign by 6 and controlled the game, and Michigan just won at OSU by 5....not likely to win out
 
#170      
Well, we looked really good yesterday and I hope that is the team we see the rest of the way, but the Minn team we played had one of their better players out with a broken finger, and a center that could barely run. Ohio State won in Champaign by 6 and controlled the game, and Michigan just won at OSU by 5....not likely to win out
We are not the same team that lost to OSU in Champaign. Not at all. Us winning out does not seem as daunting to me after watching that Michigan game. That Dickinson character has to try to move Kofi? Yeah, good luck with that.
 
#172      
I scanned through this thread but the one thing I didn’t see was anyone commenting on the poor defense that was played in this game! It felt like an NBA all star game. We play way better defense than what was played in this game. Prejudice sure but realistic yes. I’m sorry but the guy that says they are better than Baylor cmon. They play awesome defense that sparks their good offense. Our defense also sparks our offense. Good teams but not great teams just my two cents.
 
#173      
I’ve watched both Michigan’s Wisconsin and OSU games, and feel like we match up better with Michigan than OSU? I feel like Dickerson won Michigan both of those games in the second half as neither team had anyone that could check him. Almost feel like he’s a series of body blows in a boxing match that just wore down the front lines of both teams and then they couldn’t stop him.

I don’t think he can wear Kofi down like that. In fact, good chance the opposite happens. To me then, it’s a question of how many 3’s they make. And they are such a good shooting team I think the best strategy is to limit their attempts as much as possible, which we do a great job of.

If we hold them to say, 15ish 3pt attempts or less I think we’ve got a great chance to win. Only way they beat us the. is if Livers/Wagner make a lot of 2 point jump shots.

OSU just has enough length to bother us on the perimeter and Liddell is able to pull Kofi away from the basket to open up the lane. I think we beat Michigan but lose again to OSU.
 
#174      
BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
The announcers of the Michigan OSU game today said on the broadcast that the final BIG ratings would be based upon winning percentages. However, maybe they made that comment up, but I doubt it.
Unless something has changed, the most recent statement I've read about conference standings is that the league office and the ADs are deliberately not making any decisions yet on how to award the conference title, because they want to avoid a repeat of the perceived football debacle. So until they put out a clear statement to the contrary, I think everyone else is just making stuff up.
 
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