2017 Coaching Carousel

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EJ33

San Francisco
I know Jerrance and he is very active on the recruiting trail, but you can ask any coach and he will tell you how positively he still talks about UI. He was the heart and soul of the teams he played for, despite not getting playing time. He is still very close with ex-teammates and players he coached and really likes to interact with Illini fans at AAU events.

Jerrance was not a "Self guy" or "Weber guy." He has coached under both and is appreciative of their help in their career, but he has always been an "Illinois guy." We have had better players, but I have honestly never met anyone who loved UI more than Jerrance. The entire UI experience.

As far as recruits, it is laughable. Some posters try to make it sound that KU regularly steals our valued "sleepers" but the truth is that KU just recruits the top Illinois players like most other schools do. In five years, KU has stole a total of ONE (1) recruit from UI, Cliff Alexander, who miraculously happened to be a top-5 recruit nationwide. KU has always recruited top-players in the state of Illinois, even before Jerrance, and will continue long after Jerrance is gone.

Maybe we should be more mad at Cuonzo for stealing Moore.

Do you think Jerrance can coach? Why?
 
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89illinigrad

Chicago
It's good that we're critically examining the likelihood of actually losing these recruits. It's an interesting subject.

But this is the real issue:



Understanding how utterly preposterous that is is the key logical hurdle that needs to get jumped over here.

If we hire a decent coach, not a Bill Self, not a superstar, but basically a median-level coach in our expected range of outcomes, and Frazier and Tilmon decide to go elsewhere, we will very possibly be better next year than this year and will very likely be in the tournament in Year 2.

There would be no recruiting class, none, in any coaching transition in which we should anticipate a raft of 3-stars that no other Big Ten schools wanted. We will be filling our scholarships with quality players who fill holes in the roster fit what the new coach wants immediately.

This board needs to calibrate itself to that reality.

There are situations where making a change at head coach means you have to go backwards to go forwards. This is not one of those situations. We're in the market for someone to make our existing roster play closer to its potential, which is not a high bar at the moment.

OK, let me get this straight, you are saying that, if we hire a new coach, lose our 6 seniors to graduation AND lose Tilmon and Frazier, we will still be better next year?

How is a new coach going to fill all those roster spots with "quality" players when he is basically being hired right around the spring signing period?

I think if the above happens, next year will most definitely be a step back, no matter who the coach is.

Is Finke going to play center and suddenly develop lateral quickness? He will be eaten alive by all of the BIG centers.

Are our guards going to suddenly be able to keep the opposing teams guards in front of them?

Who is going to replace all the scoring provided by Morgan and Hill?

Groce may not be all that great of a coach, but our "talent" has some weaknesses too.

Every time we bring in a new coach, my fear is that fans will expect too much too soon and if the coach doesn't deliver, they will be calling for his head in year 3. Imagine if Cubs fans did the same thing with Theo. We'd still be talking about the Curse.
 
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OK, let me get this straight, you are saying that, if we hire a new coach, lose our 6 seniors to graduation AND lose Tilmon and Frazier, we will still be better next year?

Not saying we will be, saying we could be. And part of that uncertainty is discerning quite how bad we'll end up this year. Is this a 5-13 team or a 9-9 team? Fair to call that up in the air at this point.

But under any coaching or roster scenario, next year will be a prelude to the year after that when Black, JCL and Finke (and hopefully DJW) will be seniors. I am very confident that is a tournament team under new leadership. Heck, I'm confident that's a tournament team under this leadership, but I'm being burned by that exact same prediction this year so :noidea:
 
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I wish people would realize players come and go. The health of the basketball program is in dire need of a good coach. A coach is the most important thing, he's the foundation. All the five stars in the world mean very little without a good coach it'd be like building a house on sand.
 
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I wish people would realize players come and go. The health of the basketball program is in dire need of a good coach. A coach is the most important thing, he's the foundation. All the five stars in the world mean very little without a good coach it'd be like building a house on sand.

:thumb: Great point Farmer!!
 
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Busy couple days!

I'm a little perplexed by the Krystowiak affection -- not that he's not a decent candidate, but not a plan A. .583 win % and .495 conference win % at Utah? Not that that's an easy job, but it's not like the PAC 12 has been a juggernaut in recent years, and he's never won that conference (two 2nd place finishes). Granted, certainly an improvement from our current HC.

Yet people are having Martin affection??? Why because he from Midwest yet he can't finish above Krystowiak in a not much of a juggernaut of the PAC 12
 
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Do you think Jerrance can coach? Why?

He has the personality to connect with today's athletes and coaches. He works very hard and he is very active and popular on the AAU/HS scene. He often runs practice at KU, very popular with players, as he was with UI players. Pretty connected, good mentors, HOF coaches, he will get the job recommendations he needs, I think he will get the players, just that he needs to find the "right" opportunity, the "right" school, rather than settle just to get to HC. He has already turned down overtures from smaller schools, so he will get his opportunity.
 
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He has the personality to connect with today's athletes and coaches. He works very hard and he is very active and popular on the AAU/HS scene. He often runs practice at KU, very popular with players, as he was with UI players. Pretty connected, good mentors, HOF coaches, he will get the job recommendations he needs, I think he will get the players, just that he needs to find the "right" opportunity, the "right" school, rather than settle just to get to HC. He has already turned down overtures from smaller schools, so he will get his opportunity.

I am more Jerrance-curious than most of the data-heads in this thread, as I was back in 2012. I think he's unlikely, and I believe the questions that need to be answered about him are ultimately ones that we can't answer here, but I'd encourage Whitman to do his due diligence there.

Having said all of that, your contention that we will hire a more established coach than Jerrance out of an institutional commitment to risk-aversion is absolute pure nonsense.
 
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EJ33

San Francisco
He has the personality to connect with today's athletes and coaches. He works very hard and he is very active and popular on the AAU/HS scene. He often runs practice at KU, very popular with players, as he was with UI players. Pretty connected, good mentors, HOF coaches, he will get the job recommendations he needs, I think he will get the players, just that he needs to find the "right" opportunity, the "right" school, rather than settle just to get to HC. He has already turned down overtures from smaller schools, so he will get his opportunity.

Great info - thanks for sharing. :thumb:
 
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Hands Malone

Quad-Cities, IL
He has the personality to connect with today's athletes and coaches. He works very hard and he is very active and popular on the AAU/HS scene. He often runs practice at KU, very popular with players, as he was with UI players. Pretty connected, good mentors, HOF coaches, he will get the job recommendations he needs, I think he will get the players, just that he needs to find the "right" opportunity, the "right" school, rather than settle just to get to HC. He has already turned down overtures from smaller schools, so he will get his opportunity.

Jerrance will not be the next Illinois coach. It will be either Bennet, Miller, Martin or guy from Cincinnati. Money talks.
 
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the national

the Front Range
Jerrance will not be the next Illinois coach. It will be either Bennet, Miller, Martin or guy from Cincinnati. Money talks.

I do think Jerrance will get a legit shot with convincing Whitman he is the right guy for the job. Of all the names thrown about, he is the only name the perks up my ears. I really really like the UI connection aspect of him. Maybe it's nostalgia, or something, but I wouldn't mind having a guy came back to his alma mater and bring back some of our old swagger. His connections to former players might help rebuild our image. John Groce just doesn't have that, will never and ultimately would have to overcome that. To date he is a long way from it and getting further with each game. Jerrance is a different personality than some of our past coaches but that doesn't make him a bad choice. He is young but that also doesn't make him a bad choice.
 
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Jerrance will not be the next Illinois coach. It will be either Bennet, Miller, Martin or guy from Cincinnati. Money talks.

I don't think Obelix is arguing that Jerrance will be the next Illinois coach or that he should be the priority hire. They're just stating that he will have success as a head coach provided he takes the right opportunity. I too agree.

What baffles me is the disdain for one of our own over the past couple of years. I too have talked with Howard (at a KU event) and he still is very much attached to Illinois and a proud alum. He also has no problem letting it be known that he wants our program to succeed.
 
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Who does Jerry Colangelo want as our new head coach??

That's who I want...... JC is an Illini and knows how to build WINNERS!!

JW give JC a call about replacing JG :eek:)
 
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UofI08

Chicago
Guys I figured it out! Bring back Lon and bring Jerrance as coach in waiting!
 
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blmillini

Bloomington, IL
Who does Jerry Colangelo want as our new head coach??

That's who I want...... JC is an Illini and knows how to build WINNERS!!

JW give JC a call about replacing JG :eek:)

What was Jerry Colangelo''s last winner? I agree that he is an illini.
 
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If gillispie worked out I don't think he ever leaves. Had the blue blood chance and blew it. Under him we could be awesome but be that next level below the bloods but be able to beat them certain years, maybe lots of years. But the bloods won't ever try to poach him because of his Kentucky fiasco. Wouldn't have to worry about our coach getting an offer or tradition we couldn't match......

STAHHHHHP! ...

"In April 2015, it was announced that Gillispie would become the new basketball coach and athletic director at Ranger College, a junior college and his alma mater.

After using ineligible players and other violations, his 2015–16 Ranger College men's basketball team will forfeit all games from that season and have been placed on probation by the NJCAA for the 2016 – 2017 season.[38] On December 7, 2016, Gillispie announced his immediate retirement from coaching, citing severe health issues related to his blood pressure."
 
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Wow! I had no idea he pulled that crap......unbelievable. What a wasted career. It's one thing to be an alcoholic and try to get your life back together, which is what I was hoping could be a possibility. But that goes beyond cheating, what a dirtbag....
 
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Jerrance will not be the next Illinois coach. It will be either Bennet, Miller, Martin or guy from Cincinnati. Money talks.

Illinois will not get these coaches because they can offer money. Actually, money will have very little to do with their decision.
 
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