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I guess no one cared about or was very impressed one way or the other by the recent trade. Thought there would be at least a few comments here. For what it is worth, I like the trade. Certainly a bit of a Hail Mary, but Bummer has been inconsistent last few years. Might as well roll the dice on two SPs who if they can get right/healthy can form the backend (maybe mid-) of your rotation. Plus they got an Illini to boot.
 
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I guess no one cared about or was very impressed one way or the other by the recent trade... I like the trade.

A trade like this is called Addition By Subtraction.

I think Cease has to go, too (for a LOT more). Not that he isn't a good pitcher... but I have a feeling the Sox have already seen the best from him.
 
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Six sigh Paul DeJong. Right now middle infielder options are him, Nicky Lopez and Lenyn Sosa. Hopefully they have additional plans or some players on the farm ready to contribute.
 
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Hopefully they have additional plans or some players on the farm ready to contribute.

I don't know how good the Sox are going to be in the new season. But almost anything would be an improvement over the pathetic year they had in '23.
Even if the 2024 Sox lose 95 games it won't look as bad because the expectations are not high right now. And young players will get time on the field.
 
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Whoever winds up on the field, I just want to see them play intelligent baseball with passion. Haven’t seen that recently.
 
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Media Report: White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf meets with mayor of Nashville

This guy is REALLY making it hard for anyone in Chicago to remain a White Sox fan. Jason Benetti saw the writing on the wall and got out of town well before the moving vans show up.

The Owner seems to be going out of his way to deliberately sabotage the franchise for Chicago. And add another layer of disrespect for White Sox fans.
Even if this is just another power play to get someone else’s money to pay for any new Chicago ball park... who in good conscience can continue to support a man running a franchise like that. With tactics like those and that kind of disrespect of fans.

When the Sox leave town that will leave Chicago with NO major league baseball teams. (Wait for it...)

...South of Madison Street.

Looks like Sox fans will have to become fans of the Tigers or Cardinals... or just give up on MLB entirely.
 
#207      

splitter

and not Nebraska
You had me before you added South of Madison ... wait the Brewers are north.
 
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splitter

and not Nebraska
Atlanta signed Leury so maybe we will sign another Garcia to play right field. /S Two come back player candidates.
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
Media Report: White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf meets with mayor of Nashville

This guy is REALLY making it hard for anyone in Chicago to remain a White Sox fan. Jason Benetti saw the writing on the wall and got out of town well before the moving vans show up.

The Owner seems to be going out of his way to deliberately sabotage the franchise for Chicago. And add another layer of disrespect for White Sox fans.
Even if this is just another power play to get someone else’s money to pay for any new Chicago ball park... who in good conscience can continue to support a man running a franchise like that. With tactics like those and that kind of disrespect of fans.

When the Sox leave town that will leave Chicago with NO major league baseball teams. (Wait for it...)

...South of Madison Street.

Looks like Sox fans will have to become fans of the Tigers or Cardinals... or just give up on MLB entirely.
We will take you on the Cardinals side of things. Arms wide open.
 
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We will take you on the Cardinals side of things. Arms wide open.

Over the years when the Sox were having a down year (which is quite often, unfortunately) I got in the habit of listening to the Redbirds at night at times (since they were usually always playing good to great baseball).

Family members of mine would listen to Harry Caray and Jack Buck in the Sixties off of the big blowtorch station 1120. And the Cards had those great ball clubs in the Sixties. And then of course, Harry ended up doing Sox games for a number of years after that. And most Sox fans loved him. Loud and at times a bit of an outcast... just like many Sox fans. I got to meet him once and he just loved being the center of attention.

I respect the baseball fans of St. Louis as Cards and Sox fans share a great deal together of love for the game and being knowledgeable about it. Real baseball passion. As the Sox have started to play the Cardinals during the regular season I hope to see this game blossom into a big rivalry like it already is on the Wrong Side of Town.

Most Sox fans would never become Tiger fans. A few might go with the Brewers. And some would have to discover the Cardinals since they are NL and not a team many Sox fans are that familiar with.

For Sox fans, the best future would be for the franchise to be sold to someone who commits to the South area of Chicago for a new ball park and keeps the team there. But the way the current Owner is acting... we might never get that chance.

Good luck to the Redbirds in ‘24.
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
Over the years when the Sox were having a down year (which is quite often, unfortunately) I got in the habit of listening to the Redbirds at night at times (since they were usually always playing good to great baseball).

Family members of mine would listen to Harry Caray and Jack Buck in the Sixties off of the big blowtorch station 1120. And the Cards had those great ball clubs in the Sixties. And then of course, Harry ended up doing Sox games for a number of years after that. And most Sox fans loved him. Loud and at times a bit of an outcast... just like many Sox fans. I got to meet him once and he just loved being the center of attention.

I respect the baseball fans of St. Louis as Cards and Sox fans share a great deal together of love for the game and being knowledgeable about it. Real baseball passion. As the Sox have started to play the Cardinals during the regular season I hope to see this game blossom into a big rivalry like it already is on the Wrong Side of Town.

Most Sox fans would never become Tiger fans. A few might go with the Brewers. And some would have to discover the Cardinals since they are NL and not a team many Sox fans are that familiar with.

For Sox fans, the best future would be for the franchise to be sold to someone who commits to the South area of Chicago for a new ball park and keeps the team there. But the way the current Owner is acting... we might never get that chance.

Good luck to the Redbirds in ‘24.
I feel for the Sox fans and are one of the under rated fan bases around. I was surprised by that when I moved up here. You run into a true Sox fan, they’ll give anyone a run for their money with knowledge of just the game. My wife and her family are season tickets holders for many years. About 16 or so rows off the 3rd baseline, but you look straight down the 1st base line. Awesome seats. Her dad passed away a couple of years ago and I know he is just spinning right now. Should Jerry sell, I hope he does the right thing and finds a buyer that will keep the team here. I couldn’t fathom a situation where the Sox are elsewhere.
 
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I feel for the Sox fans... I couldn’t fathom a situation where the Sox are elsewhere.

There are some families in Brooklyn who are still feeling the wounds of that kind of thing. Just like the A's fans in the Bay Area now these days.

Losing your ball club is like losing a member of your family. True fans take it that personally. That's something that Cardinal fans will never have to deal with.
(Although any families in St. Louis who had Browns fans know what losing a team is).

My concern is that the South Side of Chicago does not have a good reputation these days. It used to be filled with many thousands of hard-working fans in the many factories that were on the South Side and loved the Sox. But now all those jobs are long gone and the economy of the area around the park is not great. That catches the attention of business people like ball club owners... especially the kind that don't value the team's fans anyway.
 
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There are some families in Brooklyn who are still feeling the wounds of that kind of thing. Just like the A's fans in the Bay Area now these days.

Losing your ball club is like losing a member of your family. True fans take it that personally. That's something that Cardinal fans will never have to deal with.
(Although any families in St. Louis who had Browns fans know what losing a team is).

My concern is that the South Side of Chicago does not have a good reputation these days. It used to be filled with many thousands of hard-working fans in the many factories that were on the South Side and loved the Sox. But now all those jobs are long gone and the economy of the area around the park is not great. That catches the attention of business people like ball club owners... especially the kind that don't value the team's fans anyway.
TBH, I don’t think the South Side (“the baddest part of town”) has had a good reputation for fifty years or more … yet they built the new stadium there anyway. I’m hoping the other owners will nix any thoughts of a move. That Sox brand will lose a lot of luster if it’s taken to another city, IMHO.
 
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splitter

and not Nebraska
Well on the way to being Hitless Wonders 2.0 would be happy for their results tho.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
White Sox in very preliminary discussions with the city about the 60 acre open parcel of land at Roosevelt & Clark for a new stadium .

it’s an awesome site along the east side of the south branch of the Chicago River and would allow an awesome view of the downtown skyline.

All Reinsdorf needs is $ 1 Billion
 
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White Sox in very preliminary discussions with the city about the 60 acre open parcel of land at Roosevelt & Clark for a new stadium .

it’s an awesome site along the east side of the south branch of the Chicago River and would allow an awesome view of the downtown skyline.

All Reinsdorf needs is $ 1 Billion

This should have happened 35 years ago. That was always the right location for a new Sox ball park.

I would very much like to this happen. But my trust level of this Ownership is a bit lacking... so I won't get my hopes really up until the Sox commit to this location and the full-build-out of the park and surrounding neighborhood to be ballpark and fan friendly.

And after they build a new great ballpark there... how about having a great ballclub with great players to watch in it? Or that just pushing things too much?
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Roundball, I wont believe it I see you standing in the ground breaking photo op, standing in the same line as Reinsdorf , whilst all of you are holding chromed shovels
 
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White Sox in very preliminary discussions with the city about the 60 acre open parcel of land at Roosevelt & Clark for a new stadium .

it’s an awesome site along the east side of the south branch of the Chicago River and would allow an awesome view of the downtown skyline.

All Reinsdorf needs is $ 1 Billion

This has been an empty lot since the 1970s. Most recently it was supposed to be “The 78 project,” a new residential and research project that was supposed to have started being built in 2019.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
This has been an empty lot since the 1970s. Most recently it was supposed to be “The 78 project,” a new residential and research project that was supposed to have started being built in 2019.
I've seen that location sitting fallow for years. Its really perfect for the Sox, imo
 
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Roundball, I wont believe it I see you standing in the ground breaking photo op, standing in the same line as Reinsdorf , whilst all of you are holding chromed shovels

That's a real good idea. To make peace with the Sox fan base... they should hold a contest or something to have regular Sox fans standing in that photo op with shovels. Our love for the team... our patience... our financially supporting the franchise over the years... all that means we all have a stake in this franchise.

And one-hundred selected Sox fans should get season tickets to the new park for life.
 
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This has been an empty lot since the 1970s. Most recently it was supposed to be “The 78 project,” a new residential and research project that was supposed to have started being built in 2019.
It would still be the 78 just with a stadium dropped in the middle. If they can make it work it would be good for the Sox and the City.

 
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