Bracketology (Week of March 1st)

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I feel like we're VERY close to a lock for a #1 seed, but the one scenario that would make me uncertain is if Iowa wins the BTT. Especially if that includes a win over us.
 
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iLL 89ers

Dallas,TX , Born and raised in Alton,Illinois
I feel like we're VERY close to a lock for a #1 seed, but the one scenario that would make me uncertain is if Iowa wins the BTT. Especially if that includes a win over us.
Iowa has two very bad losses on their resume to Indiana , don`t even think it`s close that Iowa catches Illinois for a #1 seed.
 
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If Michigan losses tomorrow and doesn’t win the BTT - we would likely move up to the #3 overall seed. Stacking us up against each other and the head to head win should be enough to put us above them- it doesn’t matter very much but likely means we get Houston as the 2 seed in our bracket vs Alabama

the way we’re playing it shouldn’t make a difference but Houston is likely an easier game
 
#182      

iLL 89ers

Dallas,TX , Born and raised in Alton,Illinois
If Michigan losses tomorrow and doesn’t win the BTT - we would likely move up to the #3 overall seed. Stacking us up against each other and the head to head win should be enough to put us above them- it doesn’t matter very much but likely means we get Houston as the 2 seed in our bracket vs Alabama

the way we’re playing it shouldn’t make a difference but Houston is likely an easier game
I want Michigan to win , only because I don`t want Michigan State to get in the dance, unless the only way of them getting in , is they must win the Big Ten Tourney is their only way of making the Dance, lose tomorrow I think they have to win the BIG tourney.. JMO (hope I'm correct) see what the committee thinks is "the all , that ends all"
No RESPECT here for Izzo and Spartans ,
 
#183      
If Michigan losses tomorrow and doesn’t win the BTT - we would likely move up to the #3 overall seed. Stacking us up against each other and the head to head win should be enough to put us above them- it doesn’t matter very much but likely means we get Houston as the 2 seed in our bracket vs Alabama

the way we’re playing it shouldn’t make a difference but Houston is likely an easier game

I hadn't thought about that, but very good point. I suppose WVU, or maybe even Oklahoma St, could jump Houston. It would take a B12 tournament title with a win over Baylor to get there though.
 
#184      
I mean, you're wrong, but by all means, stand on your soap box. Jerry Palm literally said OSU will move up to the 1 line if they beat us today.

And this is from Gary Parrish:

But the fourth No. 1 seed remains very much up for grabs. Right now, I think, it belongs to Illinois. But Alabama, Iowa, West Virginia and Ohio State are serious contenders. If any of them were to win-out, they'd have a legitimate claim to a No. 1 seed.
I wish I could go head to head against these geniuses, Jerry Palm and Gary Parrish. Uh oh. They work for CBS. Could be a challenge. I might have to be awake.
 
#185      
I wish I could go head to head against these geniuses, Jerry Palm and Gary Parrish. Uh oh. They work for CBS. Could be a challenge. I might have to be awake.

They said IF Illinois lost today. They weren't wrong. Then Illinois went out and won.
 
#186      
They said IF Illinois lost today. They weren't wrong. Then Illinois went out and won.
They are way off as mentioned earlier. Even if we lost no way WV, Alabama, or OSU gets on the 1 line. It is completely stupid to even say so.

[edit] I guess they have to say something stupid to get clicks. or pander to a fan base. create some drama etc.
 
#187      
A truly demoralizing loss for OSU. It would not surprise me to see Purdue beat them on Friday. I could see OSU dropping to the 3 line if KU wins the Big12 Tourney beating Baylor for a second time in two weeks. But there is a huge gap between the 2 and 3 line. Only KU has a legitimate case of moving up. WV is a solid 2 even with the loss today. Bama is a solid 2 as is Iowa. Purdue could move to the 3 line with a win over OSU and a win against Michigan. Lots of moving pieces from the 3rd line down. Glad we are locked into a 1 seed.
 
#189      

hooraybeer

Pittsburgh, PA
Lunardi's latest bracket looking more and more like what we could actually see. Has the two B1G 2's in the Gonzaga/Baylor brackets. Has OkS and Kansas as two dangerous four seeds. Can definitely see the committee creating either of those matchups for us
 
#190      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
If Michigan losses tomorrow and doesn’t win the BTT - we would likely move up to the #3 overall seed. Stacking us up against each other and the head to head win should be enough to put us above them- it doesn’t matter very much but likely means we get Houston as the 2 seed in our bracket vs Alabama

the way we’re playing it shouldn’t make a difference but Houston is likely an easier game
Well, perhaps we don't need to think too much about the #2 seed too early. #1 seed meets #2 seed in Elite Eight are not as common as one might expect
 
#191      
Well, a lot of the harder schedules are of lesser Big Ten teams. So think about it this way... Illinois and Northwestern have identical schedules, but the only difference is Northwestern played Illinois and Illinois played Northwestern, Northwestern will have a harder schedule. Northwestern, Penn State, Nebraska, Indiana, Minnesota, Rutgers, and Maryland are all ahead of Illinois.
Exactly. Also, our schedule had us playing a lot of the bottom of the standing teams twice and the more "elite" teams once.
 
#192      
I agree with you, if we're playing well, we can beat anyone. But I have a different take on the seeding. I think it's critical we get a 1 seed - given we avoid Baylor and Gonzaga's bracket (if we are a 2 seed we will be in one of their brackets if UM and OSU are the other 1's). Our odds of reaching the final four are about 2x if we don't have to go through one of those two teams - we are capable of beating them, but they will be a much tougher opponent than any of the 2 seeds. Getting to a Final Four would be huge for the program. National exposure, reputation, recruiting, reward for the players - all of that makes a huge difference if you make the final four or not - nobody remembers who lost in the elite 8
I still remember losing at Kentucky in 84 and it makes me angry. Then there was 2001.
 
#195      
With 4 games left on today's B1G schedule, there are seeding changes for the BTT that will be affected by the results of 3 of the games. Here are the potential seeding changes that could happen:

-Iowa/Wisconsin: Wisconsin wins, Purdue is the 3 seed, Iowa is the 4 seed; Iowa wins, Iowa is the 3 seed, Purdue is the 4 seed
-Penn State/Maryland: Penn State wins, Rutgers is the 7 seed, Maryland is the 8 seed; Maryland wins, Maryland is the 7 seed, Rutgers is the 8 seed
-Northwestern/Nebraska; Nebraska wins, Minnesota is the 12 seed, Northwestern is the 13 seed; Northwestern wins, Northwestern is the 12 seed, Minnesota is the 13 seed.

Michigan State/Michigan is the only game today where BTT seeding can in no way be impacted.
 
#196      
With 4 games left on today's B1G schedule, there are seeding changes for the BTT that will be affected by the results of 3 of the games. Here are the potential seeding changes that could happen:

-Iowa/Wisconsin: Wisconsin wins, Purdue is the 3 seed, Iowa is the 4 seed; Iowa wins, Iowa is the 3 seed, Purdue is the 4 seed
-Penn State/Maryland: Penn State wins, Rutgers is the 7 seed, Maryland is the 8 seed; Maryland wins, Maryland is the 7 seed, Rutgers is the 8 seed
-Northwestern/Nebraska; Nebraska wins, Minnesota is the 12 seed, Northwestern is the 13 seed; Northwestern wins, Northwestern is the 12 seed, Minnesota is the 13 seed.

Michigan State/Michigan is the only game today where BTT seeding can in no way be impacted.
Also, if both Wisconsin and Maryland win; Rutgers still gets the 7 seed.
 
#197      
so pretty much
us
gonzaga
baylor
are all locks for #1 seed

is michigan a lock if they lose today and lose next Friday or next Saturday ?
 
#199      
so pretty much
us
gonzaga
baylor
are all locks for #1 seed

is michigan a lock if they lose today and lose next Friday or next Saturday ?

Michigan is as much of a lock as we are. They have 2 losses. We are 14-6 in Q1/Q2 games. Even with 2 consecutive losses, Michigan would be 13-4. Their current adjusted efficiency numbers are better than that of our '05 team.
 
#200      
ESPN has Gonzaga, Baylor, Michigan as 50% + lock for 1 seeds and we are at 47%. I think an epic collapse is necessary to knock things off course
 
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