Pretty solidly in at this point to. Our lowest RPI loss by almost 20 spots is at Indiana. Go figure.
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Pretty solidly in at this point to. Our lowest RPI loss by almost 20 spots is at Indiana. Go figure.
We may not have a bad loss, but we do have several appalling ones...
Yes we do. However, margin of loss is not taken into account for the RPI. We might as well lost by 1 to West Virginia
Ransom Stoddard
Ordained Dudeist Priest
- Bloomington, IL
The committee uses many more criteria than RPI, and is actually trying to de-emphasize RPI.
Um, it's the one I linked, that you quoted.
FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
That's the right verb for them, lol
ILL in IA
- Iowa City
We wouldn't barely make the tournament because of a win streak against bad teams We would make the tournament because the record at the end of the year got us in. And the RPI would say we should be in. I know this is splitting hairs but there is a difference between the two in my mind. Rutgers winning the big ten tournament is getting in on a win streak.
Wins over @ Iowa and Northwestern netted us +9 gain.
Beating @ Nebraska and Michigan St. would likely get us a similar gain, putting us low 50's or high 40's. I don't think we necessarily need to beat one of those big 3 teams to get in.
Having said that, I think we will lose Sunday and discussion becomes moot
It's harder to jump as you go up though. I think if we win all three we sit somewhere 45-49. Remember, the last four in likely won't make it in the tournament because of bid stealers in the smaller conference tournaments. Our SOS is good, but record against top 50 and top 100 is what i would not consider good.
We might need to make it to Sunday to get an invite.
We might need to make it to Sunday to get an invite.
Chris Yates
Recruiting Correspondent
- Michigan
It's so fitting that we're right there on the bubble with Bruce Weber and his Kansas State squad. We'll both just miss the tournament. Watch. :tsk:
Our win streak would be Iowa, Northwestern, Nebraska, MSU, and Rutgers. That's 2 8-seed-or-worse tournament teams and 3 bad teams. We would then be counting on multiple wins, at least 1 of which is quality, in the BTT. If you need that much to go right for you, that's what I considered "barely making the tournament."
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I think NW got us most of the jump and at the time they were a bit farther up than MSU
I think the jump on the Feb 21 update to 59 from 66 (-7) was all NW, I think we only moved 1 or 2 with Iowa. MSU is 45; NW is 43, but they were 39 when we beat them, so I don't think MSU will help as much, NE/Rut, + a thursday BTT against another mid level B1G team I don't think will move us enough...we need to start getting to 48 or below to start having a shot. I don't we can get there before Friday of BTT & climbing to a 4/5 seed to avoid the 1-3 seed on Friday seems like a stretch. I'm thinking we need to beat one of them, that gives us a top 25 win and the boost to get us on the right side of the bubble.
Yeah, well guess where I found that link....at the matrix page!
But the point is we weren't in any of them yesterday morning. And we're also mentioned as the "first four out" in some others. Win Sunday and then you'll really start to see movement.
GortTheRobot
- North Bethesda, Maryland
Not to rain on the positive vibe parade, but the fact that we are engaged in advanced probability to see a path to the tournament is depressing. Sorry if I am stating the obvious. For the sake of our young men, who I genuinely feel for, I will now move forward with hoping for the best for our guys.
Northwestern was higher at the time, but Nebraska is almost 40 spots higher than Iowa
BillyBob1
- Champaign
Syracuse at 86. Sure that will change after tonight.
They don't call him Bubbles for nuthin :thumb:
K. St. has a golden opportunity tonight, which they currently are blowing
Rutgers up by 4, 6.5 mins remain.
Didn't happen. Now, Minnesota and NW both need to lose all the rest of their games for us to have a shot at the 4 seed. I shan't hold my breath on that happening.
BillyBob1
- Champaign
Thanks. Not very high to be considered a lock.
Really wouldn't want a seed that puts us into a matchup with Purdue because we'd probably get smoked. We're only maybe possibly getting to the point where we could sneak in. Getting smashed by Purdue doesn't help that.
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