I just don't know guys. Typically in the past, good wins are worth more in the committee's eyes than bad losses. Last year or two years ago (can't remember which), the committee chair even said they didn't care much about the losses when comparing bubble teams because bad teams aren't in the tournament and they've proven they can play with the top teams. Not saying this is the case in 2017, but my honest opinion is that the lack of signature wins is going to hurt us. Purdue (or anyone in the conference) isn't a signature win in the committee's eyes.
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I agree and disagree. When you are comparing large groups of teams then you have to have some cut off for comparisons, so in that sense the top 50/100 is important.
Now if it comes down to the end for the last spot or two and we're in that group, then yes they probably are going to dig a little deeper and the exact RPI numbers may not mean as much.
Purdue is top 15 in the polls and top 20 RPI. Definitely a signature win.
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I agree with almost everything. The only disagreement is Purdue. I think that would be considered a signature win. I don't see how we make it without beating Purdue. If we somehow did make it without a Purdue win, that would be because of the other bubble teams helping us.
BigSandysFinest
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Man, that Florida State win would have been huge.
It'd be interesting to see what the committee would do if Vanderbilt loses their first game. We're kind of on the opposite sides of the spectrum. Given we beat Michigan and lose to Purdue.
The Dave
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Well, one piece of good news is that BYU lost last night. They won't steal an automatic bid.
I shouldn't say 'signature win', because that's relative to what our resume is to date. I think we look at Purdue far differently than the people actually making the decisions as they didn't include them (or any big ten team) in their top 16 when they released it about a month ago. I'm sure they will end up around a #4 seed on Sunday night as they're playing well, but the top big ten team isn't a top 5 or top 10 team this year. Purdue isn't an impossible win for us just because we were blown out on the road during a bad stretch of the season.
I'm hoping the committee looks at the big ten and is really impressed with 7-8 teams. Knowing they didn't include Purdue (20-5) or Wisconsin (21-3) in the top 16 on initial rankings was really telling though.
Yeah I guess it's all just semantics, but I'm right there with you. Really Purdue would be our best win by far all year, and having to count on that to get into the tournament just shows how little we've accomplished this year. Numbers and resume wise we're right there on the bubble. I just don't see how the committee can look at our actual opponents and results and think we're a good enough team for the tournament. Our best wins are MSU, Michigan, and Northwestern. How good are those teams? Like 7 seed at best? We have a lot of mediocre on our resume with nothing great.
Miami a 3 pt fav over cuse tomorrow. Let's. Go. Canes.
BigSandysFinest
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That sounds about right to me.
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Is Pitt on the bubble?
BigSandysFinest
- Chicago
Less so than Georgia Tech. It's a pick your poison matchup.
danielb927
Orange Krush Class of 2013
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Thanks for posting this!
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Wow, digging deep to find that SD St angle. :thumb:
No, they are under .500
Yeah that's what I thought. Thanks.
+1 :thumb:
Let's go BC!
Edit: ... I Jynxed us.
Edit: ... I Jynxed us.
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Illini1221
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It might be a moot point by the time they play, but will Northwestern get back into the top 50 with a win Thursday? We are really close to having 5-6 top 50 wins, but at the same time really close to having 1.
top 50 is used as a forward-looking perspective to tournament team. i think the committee asseses the locks and views quality wins as those in the tourney.
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This is great! Really hoping you can do this for the next couple days as well.
I second this. Thanks this is great!
Yes, but to stay top 50 they would have to win the next game, too.
Chris Yates
Recruiting Correspondent
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Pitt beats Georgia Tech! That helps! :thumb:
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