Chicago Cubs 2016 Season

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IanKEvans2

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champaignchris said:
That makes a heck of a lot of sense.

Vogelback would be the Yankees starting DH immediately.
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Absolutely. And 1B when needed, even despite Vogelbach's limited defensive abilities. First base has been an atrocity for NYY this season.

ChicagoChief said:
I don't think it makes much sense at all for the Yankees. At least not for Andrew Miller. They'd have to get a bunch more than just him.
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I think the consensus is that Vogelbach would be the centerpiece of a larger prospect package. Vogelbach as a part of a package makes infinitely more sense for the value of both Miller and Chapman than does Schwarber by his lonesome.

If the Yankees don't bite, Theo & company will move onto the next one. Simply put, 2.5 years of 31-year-old Andrew Miller is not worth 6 years of prime Kyle Schwarber (even coming off major knee injury).

Bullpen arms are fickle and easily replaceable; 23-year-old bats with the pop Schwarber has are not.
 
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Bomb Squad 217 said:
Ive been saying for the last two seasons now that Dexter is the real mvp of this team.
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It's the smile.

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Shane Walsh said:
That rizzo ab was something else.
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It was Votto-like. Hopefully, Rizzo picked this up from his buddy. I wish more Cubs would bat like this with two strikes. Too often the Cubs seem to strike out on a low inside slider.
 
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CLEARWATERDAN said:
It was Votto-like. Hopefully, Rizzo picked this up from his buddy. I wish more Cubs would bat like this with two strikes. Too often the Cubs seem to strike out on a low inside slider.
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That's what we thought going into the season... The Cubs would put up a lot of homers, a lot of strike outs, and a lot of walks. They're 8th, 6th, and 1st in the Majors respectively.
 
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Cubs rumored to have a deal in place to acquire with the Mariners which centering around Dan Vogelbach for LHP Mike Montgomery. Love this deal. 5 years of team control for Montgomery (age 27).
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/07/cubs-mariners-trade-montgomery-vogelbach.html

2016
61.2 IP, 2.34 ERA (3.20 FIP), 1.086 WHIP, 7.9 K/9.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/montgmi01.shtml

EDIT: Sounds like the Cubs are also sending Paul Blackburn and receiving a AAA pitcher from Seattle.
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/755884973140443140
 
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Vogelbach and Blackburn for Montgomery and whoever is a pretty good return.

Solid LHP out of the pen and is under team control for 5 years. Plus, Vogelbach can't haunt us in Seattle. Montgomery was at one time a Top 30 prospect. Him and Matusz should be able to help a lot from the left side.
 
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IanKEvans2 said:
All but writes the ending for Clayton Richard.
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Hopefully.

Wood
Montgomery
Matusz

Not too bad from the LH side. And I actually think Nathan is going to help as well.

What I'm expecting now is maybe one more move for an arm and possibly a LH OF/1B type for some insurance.
 
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ChicagoChief said:
Hopefully.

Wood
Montgomery
Matusz

Not too bad from the LH side. And I actually think Nathan is going to help as well.

What I'm expecting now is maybe one more move for an arm and possibly a LH OF/1B type for some insurance.
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With Fowler (switch), Soler (right), and Coghlan (left) coming back, it'll be interesting to follow.

I really don't know what to expect. Rosenthal was reporting this morning that the Cubs were trying to make a move for Pomeranz from San Diego, only to flip him for another [unknown] player. Apparently Baez was the asking price and Theo & Company passed. If Soler comes back healthy and hitting (he was rather hot at the plate before injury), I could see him being moved.
 
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The last two relievers from Seattle that pitched for the Cubs were Peralta and Medina. :eek::eek:
 
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Was at the game today. Hendricks was awesome again!

Didn't hear about the trade until much later. Great trade! Basically gave up nothing of future value for lefty bullpen help now who could be a starter later. Under control for another 5 years. Arguably a better long-term value than Miller while still helping the team right now.
 
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The bullpen will be getting a boost this weekend with Montgomery possibly being joined by Joe Nathan. It'll be interesting to see how his 41-year-old arm holds up following Tommy John surgery.
 
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Bomb Squad 217 said:
Just reiterate myself once again. Dexter is the key.
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You go, we go. That's what Maddon says to Fowler before each of his ABs.

I saw the Reddick rumor. Depends on what they give up for him. His numbers are good. Don't know much about his defense.
 
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bdutts said:
I saw the Reddick rumor. Depends on what they give up for him. His numbers are good. Don't know much about his defense.
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A series of injuries has degraded Reddick's defense. He's gone from above average to below average. Still a very nice bat though.

As for left-handed corner outfielders heading into free agency, I like Jay Bruce a bit more. More power. But either one would be a nice pick up.

The Yoenis Cespedes trade between the Tigers and Mets last year would be a good comparison to guess what kind of price the Cubs would have to give. The Mets gave up a AAA and a AA pitcher, both of whom made the Majors this year. So we might be talking about something like Jeimer Candelario and Duane Underwood to get Reddick or Bruce.
 
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champaignchris said:
A series of injuries has degraded Reddick's defense. He's gone from above average to below average. Still a very nice bat though.

As for left-handed corner outfielders heading into free agency, I like Jay Bruce a bit more. More power. But either one would be a nice pick up.

The Yoenis Cespedes trade between the Tigers and Mets last year would be a good comparison to guess what kind of price the Cubs would have to give. The Mets gave up a AAA and a AA pitcher, both of whom made the Majors this year. So we might be talking about something like Jeimer Candelario and Duane Underwood to get Reddick or Bruce.
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I don't like Bruce very much. He strikes out a lot. But you're right, his slugging is much better than Reddick's. I'd probably do that deal if all it took was Underwood and Candelerio to get either.