If Wisconsin loses at home to us, will they pull a Paul Chryst and fire him the next day? Wisconsin seems obsessed with beating us in football and basketball - losing to Illinois is a CTM (career terminating move) if you peruse their message boards after an loss to the Illini.
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Making an offer is one thing. Actually being able to close the deal is quite another.
We are in a new era. NIL, Whitman, portal, and Brad. As long as we have a competent AD, we shouldn't go back to coaches like Bruce and Groce. For other schools, IU can improve if their AD figures it out. OSU NIL will probably always be hurt by their football program. UM’s NIL seems too low and I don’t get it.
Sean Miller lost 2 of his best players for the season, including Zach Freemantle who averaged 15 and 8 last year. In fact, Freemantle got hurt, I think in the conference tournament last year. With him, it's possible Xavier makes the Elite 8 or better last year. They also lost Kam Craft, who was likely looking at getting more minutes this year.
Hard to win at a high level through all of that.
Big Jack
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Mike Thomas was an unimaginative cookie cutter ad. Other people did similar things, therefore the same thing will work here. Hiring coaches is an art, not a science. Once people see something that works and try to formulate it in a little bottle, it loses its potency. Sometimes there are ‘great’ coaches in the wrong spot, and it just doesn’t work out.
Thomas didn’t realize beckman didn’t build the success at Toledo and couldn’t coach, and that groce just is not a major program coach. But hey, they had a couple of decent years in the MAC and that formula has worked for others recently. I doubt his thought processes went any deeper.
Whitman does not appear to be that way at all. Seems he has a good handle on and considers nuance, intangibles, etc… and/or at least has a well thought out, long term vision unique to Illinois. We’ll see exactly how his tenure plays out, but I like it so far. It’s been frustrating under BU at times, but that’s because we expect more and basketball is in a much better spot than before.
Thomas didn’t realize beckman didn’t build the success at Toledo and couldn’t coach, and that groce just is not a major program coach. But hey, they had a couple of decent years in the MAC and that formula has worked for others recently. I doubt his thought processes went any deeper.
Whitman does not appear to be that way at all. Seems he has a good handle on and considers nuance, intangibles, etc… and/or at least has a well thought out, long term vision unique to Illinois. We’ll see exactly how his tenure plays out, but I like it so far. It’s been frustrating under BU at times, but that’s because we expect more and basketball is in a much better spot than before.
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I feel like most AD's have a pretty good handle on how to read a persons (overall) intelligence during an interview....In the various pre and post games interviews and other times that I ever heard Beckman speak....intelligence isn't an adjective I would associate with him
Being honest, let's call it what it is.....they don't think twice about us in football. Nobody really does, so nobody is obsessed about beating us. We're a football program where we care more about others, than they do of us.
We're a really, really good basketball program, but again..... we're not a marquee game on their schedule. This isn't Indiana/Purdue, MSU/UM or MSU/OSU. When we roll in, they obviously want to beat us, but they're aren't circling the game when the schedule comes out. Those things happen when we start stringing conference championships and getting deep into the tournament.
Ohio State isn’t close to what Sean is looking for compensation or resources wise as of now …
Ohio State plans to come back with a bigger offer and more resources but I still don’t think it’ll match Xavier …
Sean is open to other jobs though … Going to come down to fit … And he is not going to leave Xavier high and dry … Chris Mack wants back in so if Sean leaves … He can leave Xavier in good hands and that really, really matters to him …
They’re sticking with Woodson from what I have been told …
I hate IU, but (without having actually met the guy...) I like Woodson. So I struggle a little with them being bad under his direction.
I guess I can be happy that he'll continue to collect a paycheck.
I’d give him more time if I were them. He’s recruited his !!! off bringing in guys like Mgbako and McNeeley and Ware in the portal. They handicapped themselves by not getting guard play in the portal, which is fixable for next season
sacraig
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This must be what it felt like for other fanbases to watch us not fire Weber for so long.
I definitely agree with football but lately with basketball we have had some real tight finishes in the standings with them. the beatings we have given them lately in basketball are also likely starting to take a toll on the fan base. We can be the first team with 4 straight wins at Kohl. They really pride themselves on that venue.
for the people surprised Indiana is sticking with Woodson, should Missouri fire Dennis Gates? His season is much worse than Woodson's.
He’s got a top 3-5 recruiting class in the nation coming in ‘24 depending on the scouting service so not likely.
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