The other worrisome thing is that UK gets more desperate with each subsequent candidate.
*Bennett, *Miller, Barnes, Sampson, Valentine, Few, Altman, Smart, Hurly, Brownell, McDermott, to name a handfulI just have a really hard time seeing Drew or Billy at UK ...
Oats is out ... Otz would not take it ... Hurley would use it as leverage on UCONN maybe ... But does he even need it ?
Brad and Sean ... Golden ? I mean who else is realistic ... Curious if you guys have any names you might think about if you were AD ?
We’re kind of a basketball only school.Slick Rick ...
Absolutely not ... Josh is a not a Mick fan ...
I could see it ...
He's not leaving Marquette for here ... Shaka knows he needs to be at a basketball only school ... Marquette is a perfect fit ...
Isn’t that the landscape in CBB coaching? If I offered you the same job you currently do, but offered say 25% more money but you had to move would you say no?This is what frustrates me year after year with BU. He’s built his culture. He’s got his everyday guys. Everyone seems to have bought in. He has massive support from his AD. Great facilities; great staff budget. He’s building something year after year. He’s made IL basketball into a destination for strong prep and the best portal players.
Yet every year it seems like the insiders indicate that he’s not necessarily above bailing on us for “greener pastures”.
We criticize a player for bailing out on IL. Like, “oh they’re not an EDG. They must be soft.” But if a blue blood comes looking for a coach, it’s just a part of the landscape of college basketball.
It’s a good belly laugh now, but let’s not forget when we went from Brad Stevens all the way to JG. That was a tough pill to swallow.The other worrisome thing is that UK gets more desperate with each subsequent candidate.
Absolutely. I've done so even when I didn't have to move.... If I offered you the same job you currently do, but offered say 25% more money but you had to move would you say no? ...
JoeWho were the favorites?
I think Lloyd, Tang, Lamont, Buzz Williams would all be on my list if I was their AD as well if I struck out on Oats and Drew.Brad and Sean ... Golden ? I mean who else is realistic ... Curious if you guys have any names you might think about if you were AD ?
Back to the God commentary.Pope would get a look I would think
100%.Absolutely. I've done so even when I didn't have to move.
I learned long ago that after a certain level of income, working in a good environment with people you like matters more than anything else. Which would you rather have:
1) A jobs that pays you significantly more than you need, in a good environment, and with a good working relationship with your boss, or
2) A job that pays 25% more and comes with a significantly more stress. Some of the key players are real *&^*&. You are always on hot coals and the axe can come at any time.
(This isn't an exact UI/KY analogy, just the general idea.)
I'm taking the first one every time. I've done the latter. It wasn't worth it.
Presuming there are a lot of alums on this board and therefore some very capable people then I'll assume lots of people, perhaps most, have turned down opportunities to make more money and stayed in a current job.Isn’t that the landscape in CBB coaching? If I offered you the same job you currently do, but offered say 25% more money but you had to move would you say no?
I don’t get why anyone is upset when people (coaches, recruits, or players) decide there is a better offer out there.
I used to get mad when kids sat out bowl games… I thought they quit on their teammates, but then I looked at it from their prospective. Would I put my body on the line if I knew the was a LITERAL winning lottery ticket amount of money guaranteed to me as long as I stayed healthy? Same goes for finishing a degree, (I used to love seeing guys graduate) then I think about how much money Robbie Hummel missed out on by coming back for his senior year. (He has a pretty decent gig with BTN, but he missed out on at least 1 lottery pick contract)
I say IMO most humble opinion, if the money is there you take it 100% of the time.
I love Brad and don’t want to see him leave, but if the opportunity to lead UK comes and the dollars line up with the increased stress level then go for it! He has succeeded everywhere he has been and I don’t think he would fail at UK. Would he win championships? Who knows, but he would be successful.
Why is that?Also, Arizona is in dire financial straits right now.
Why is that?
The bold was coined "miswanting" by Dr. Laurie Santos, because people who use money to measure their 'success' are much more likely to hate their life. Because it attributes value to 'stuff' rather than relationships, which turns out to be wrong.Isn’t that the landscape in CBB coaching? If I offered you the same job you currently do, but offered say 25% more money but you had to move would you say no?
I don’t get why anyone is upset when people (coaches, recruits, or players) decide there is a better offer out there.
I used to get mad when kids sat out bowl games… I thought they quit on their teammates, but then I looked at it from their prospective. Would I put my body on the line if I knew the was a LITERAL winning lottery ticket amount of money guaranteed to me as long as I stayed healthy? Same goes for finishing a degree, (I used to love seeing guys graduate) then I think about how much money Robbie Hummel missed out on by coming back for his senior year. (He has a pretty decent gig with BTN, but he missed out on at least 1 lottery pick contract)
I say IMO most humble opinion, if the money is there you take it 100% of the time.
I love Brad and don’t want to see him leave, but if the opportunity to lead UK comes and the dollars line up with the increased stress level then go for it! He has succeeded everywhere he has been and I don’t think he would fail at UK. Would he win championships? Who knows, but he would be successful.
Yep, totally rational and logical fanbase. Any coach would be fortunate to be part of a fan base with such reasonable outlooks on basketball.
Unless Kentucky has suddenly grown a conscience, I fail to understand why they wouldn’t be laser focused on Chris Beard right now.Yeah, Scott Drew just seems all wrong for Kentucky. He’s turned down big jobs before..and not left.
I like that Arkansas and Kentucky have both publicly whiffed. Lol
Apparently it isn’t gonna happen but I think Beard & Musselman would have been scariest (in this era) with Kentucky resources. JMO
What are the other choices? Only Sean Miller.Kentucky is not hiring Brad Underwood.
EDG!!!You all underestimate how respected Underwood is in the coaching world. All he has ever done is win. Media types don’t fawn over guys like BU because he isn’t flashy. He just shows up everyday and wins.
Well, it would appear that you and many other probably undervalue Brad! It seems he is HIGHLY thought of in the coaching world.I think Lloyd, Tang, Lamont, Buzz Williams would all be on my list if I was their AD as well if I struck out on Oats and Drew.
Frankly I'm surprised that Brad is higher on their list than Tang or Lloyd.