Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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Welcome to the Coaching Carousel thread.
 
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Hubert Davis after this weekend . . .


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"Florida State University men's basketball head coach Leonard Hamilton announced Monday that he is resigning as head coach effective at the end of the current season"

 
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"Florida State University men's basketball head coach Leonard Hamilton announced Monday that he is resigning as head coach effective at the end of the current season"

He might have been able to survive EITHER the declining results OR the issues around the NIL lawsuit, but both together pretty much made this one a fait accompli for this season. Curious to hear potential options from the insiders, because I would not imagine this is currently a desirable position in the college basketball landscape.
 
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"Florida State University men's basketball head coach Leonard Hamilton announced Monday that he is resigning as head coach effective at the end of the current season"

Did not realize he is all of 76. And he really needs this job at this stage of his life?
 
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Did not realize he is all of 76. And he really needs this job at this stage of his life?
I agree. And the question you have raised is: why?

I think the answer is ego.

Every coach who has made it to this level of success absolutely must have an ego that drives them. Not a one of them will make the decision that a normal person would -- "Time to step aside, time to accept the accolades you have earned." The very thing that has helped carry them to the top of their profession, ego, now and at this last time, is clearly shown and hinders a graceful stepping aside.
 
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He might have been able to survive EITHER the declining results OR the issues around the NIL lawsuit, but both together pretty much made this one a fait accompli for this season. Curious to hear potential options from the insiders, because I would not imagine this is currently a desirable position in the college basketball landscape.

Dennis Gates and Charlton Young are names ...

Will Wade is a name and he will be for pretty much every major job ... Chris Mack will get a call ... Bucky McMillan is a guy they'll at least reach out on ...

They really seem to like Luke Loucks ...
 
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Being only a year older, it is very difficult for me to imagine a good reason he would want to continue other than he really enjoys influencing the lives of young men.
Most of the time it’s because it’s all they know. Their lives have been consumed by it for well in this case 45+ years…..they don’t know what to do with themselves if they retire.
 
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Most of the time it’s because it’s all they know. Their lives have been consumed by it for well in this case 45+ years…..they don’t know what to do with themselves if they retire.
I have to imagine competitiveness plays a role too. I mean, these guys have spent their entire lives in competition. Hamilton has achieved so much but some of the loftiest goals, like Final Fours and National Championships were just out of his reach. Just 7 years ago he was in the Elite Eight. So close. And to top it all off, in 2019-20, possibly the best team he's ever coached, the Tourney gets cancelled due to Covid. That's got to just eat at him, and I'm sure there's a belief he can still do it, and impulse to keep chasing after it.
 
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Most of the time it’s because it’s all they know. Their lives have been consumed by it for well in this case 45+ years…..they don’t know what to do with themselves if they retire.
Bobby Knight took to fishing and still maintained being an arse.
 
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Dennis Gates and Charlton Young are names ...

Will Wade is a name and he will be for pretty much every major job ... Chris Mack will get a call ... Bucky McMillan is a guy they'll at least reach out on ...

They really seem to like Luke Loucks ...
I know the familiarity but is FSU really an upgrade over Mizzou for Gates?
 
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I know the familiarity but is FSU really an upgrade over Mizzou for Gates?

I have a different thought here than other people but the ACC is going to change … You’ve got Scheyer at Duke and Pat Kelsey at Louisville but who else ? Hubert ain’t gonna be at Carolina much longer when they’re playing like this …

There’s an opportunity here for one of these other teams to push for that 3rd spot … I think FSU could easily … Hamilton had that thing rolling for a while there …

Dennis very well connected and very will liked down there … But do I see him leaving Mizzou ? No, I don’t …

If it was me … I’d make Will Wade an offer he can’t refuse and that’s for any job in America … And for FSU, if Wade tells me no … My next call is Chris Mack …
 
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He sat on that elevated Perch for a long time, but eventually people wanted his head on a Pike.
 
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I have a different thought here than other people but the ACC is going to change … You’ve got Scheyer at Duke and Pat Kelsey at Louisville but who else ? Hubert ain’t gonna be at Carolina much longer when they’re playing like this …

There’s an opportunity here for one of these other teams to push for that 3rd spot … I think FSU could easily … Hamilton had that thing rolling for a while there …

Dennis very well connected and very will liked down there … But do I see him leaving Mizzou ? No, I don’t …

If it was me … I’d make Will Wade an offer he can’t refuse and that’s for any job in America … And for FSU, if Wade tells me no … My next call is Chris Mack …
Just got done reading about 6 articles on the FSU coaching search. Gates has a $15M buyout which would be a problem, but most of the articles think he wouldn't leave Mizzou anyway. The article by the Sports Illustrated writer was the most comprehensive and he picked his top 3 as young college head coaches, Takayo Siddle, Bucky McMillan and Alan Huss. He does say he thinks that Luke Loucks is at the top of the list.
 
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My theory is the well dried up when Florida State decided to spend every available dollar on football in hopes of the next conference realignment. Hamilton likely owns every conceivable FSU bball record down there because the Seminoles have been a bad basketball program before him (and likely after him).

If FSU's plan is still to invest everything in football (taking Hamilton down to his final contract year is a big signal that FSU could care less about bball right now) then they'll need to think more outside the box on their bball hire. They need to find a coach who's had success when they don't. My coaching list for them would be way different than others: I would have Shaka Smart, Randy Bennett, Grant McCasland, Andy Enfield, and maybe Steve Pikiell on my list. Those coaches are big floor raisers and have shown to do well with little resources.
 
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Knight put his heart and sole into IU but in the end he floundered.
You gotta admit…at one time Knight was the reel deal…a reel, basketball brain-sturgeon! But somewhere along the line it all went to his head…and he started to think he was Cod. I remember when Davis came in…he had success of course…but it always seemed like a bit of a fluke to me.
 
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