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I don't think he would come back on the cheap. Do you?
No, I'm sure the boosters ponied up for him. Now I hear they're trying to Larry Brown to join them too. Guess it would be a triumvirate with 2 of the 3 not being able to be on the floor. Together I guess the 3 of them might make more than Calipari's $8 million.
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So did Indiana reach out to the hot names this year, or only consider candidates with a proximity to Indiana (Stevens, Holtmann, Woodson)?
Obviously, some coaches like Musselman, Drew, etc are still coaching and wouldn’t interview but certainly their agent would be able to express potential interest.
Woodson wasn’t at risk of being hired at any other schools like Texas so they could’ve waited .
Obviously, some coaches like Musselman, Drew, etc are still coaching and wouldn’t interview but certainly their agent would be able to express potential interest.
Woodson wasn’t at risk of being hired at any other schools like Texas so they could’ve waited .
Sorry I'm late to the Austin discussion, but I always loved this line from the film 'Sir Doug & the Genuine Texas Cosmic Groove': “Austin happened because hippies became friends with rednecks.” Haha
Basketball by committee. It will be interesting to see how this works to build a program. It worked in football, for example, at Wisconsin with Alvarez when maintaining a program, but building up from what IU has become will be very different.
No louder than Ben Johnson in the north woods of Minnesota.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Maybe they'll make Larry the Compliance Officer. He should be pretty familiar with what constitutes a rules infraction.
You’d think after all the issues they had with Sampson - which they’ve arguably still never recovered from - IU would think twice before bringing a walking NCAA violation like Brown onto campus.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
IMHO, the Painter level will work for a while. We are coming off the worst decade in modern UI basketball history. However, we, as a fanbase, are needing a NC. We may never get it (%$&^ Loyola!), but we will not be satisfied until we have it. If memory serves, PU has never made the F4. We have, and we expect to again, and this time, finish the job!
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Purdue made it to the FF in the late '60s when Rick Mount was there. Lost to Lew Alcindor & UCLA in the final IIRC. Since then, the Elite 8, most recently that heartbreaking OT loss to UVa in 2019 (which was an absolute knock-down, drag-out classic), is as close as they've come. It always amazed me that Keady would finish at or near the top of the BT regularly (particularly in the '80s when he seemed to have our number) but I believe that team with Glenn Robinson was as deep as he ever got in the tourney.
EDIT: Looked it up. Keady also got them to the Elite 8 in 2000, which I'd completely forgotten. Dick Bennett's #8 seed Badgers (having gone 8-8 in the BT) beat them there (oof!) to go to the FF, where Mateen Cleeves & MSU took them down. Purdue lost to UCLA in the final in '69. Lee Rose took them to the Final Four in 1980 where they lost to UCLA again (I believe that was one of the Purdue teams featuring Joe Barry Carroll.)
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Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Thank you for the correction. I guess it was Keady who never made it (and now Painter).
Wilbon and Kornheiser both thought it was a brilliant hire fwiw...I think having Matta on staff was pretty shrewd..this might work out well for IU...gotta recruit
Purdue 1980 final 4. Jo Barry Carroll
Jo Barry Carroll, Arnette Hallman, Kieth Edmondson. Man, I hated those guys.
Illinifan533
- Normal, Illinois
Don't know if Dee got a call, but Lawrenceville legend Marty Simmons (former SIUE and Evansville coach) is coming to EIU from Clemson.
Gotta admit I'm a little disappointed. Nothing against Marty as I'm sure he's a good coach but I figured they'd go after someone that wasn't a retread.
Meanwhile John Groce has agreed to a contract extension that will keep him at Akron through 2026: https://gozips.com/news/2021/3/30/m...grees-to-contract-extension-through-2026.aspx
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
I wasn't correcting you.
Just had learned that about Purdue's FF appearance in the late '60s a couple years ago when I was reading about Rick Mount, and was surprised, too.Lee Rose was at Purdue for only two seasons in the late '70s. I saw his '79-'80 FF team play as well as the '80-'81 team (which was Keady' first year.) The former had Joe Barry Carroll, a 7' center. The latter had a freshman center, Russell Cross, pretty close to 7'. Roosevelt Barnes, an excellent guard IIRC, was on both those teams, too. One of the best games I saw at Ohio State growing up was the March 1981 3OT game they won against Purdue.
I always wondered why Rose left Purdue after two seasons (he came from UNC-Charlotte, which he had taken to a FF.) Keady inherited a strong team from him.
I wasn't correcting you.
Lee Rose was at Purdue for only two seasons in the late '70s. I saw his '79-'80 FF team play as well as the '80-'81 team (which was Keady' first year.) The former had Joe Barry Carroll, a 7' center. The latter had a freshman center, Russell Cross, pretty close to 7'. Roosevelt Barnes, an excellent guard IIRC, was on both those teams, too. One of the best games I saw at Ohio State growing up was the March 1981 3OT game they won against Purdue.
I always wondered why Rose left Purdue after two seasons (he came from UNC-Charlotte, which he had taken to a FF.) Keady inherited a strong team from him.
Rose left Purdue after his second season to initiate a program at South Florida. It remains a bit of a mystery why it didn’t work out at Purdue. He says it just wasn’t a good fit. Clearly, his relationship with athletic director George King wasn’t good. He also was frustrated by recruiting against Bob Knight and Digger Phelps in Indiana. He wasn’t able to get Indiana’s 1980 Mr. Basketball, Jim Master, to even visit West Lafayette despite an all-out recruiting push, and lost another player to Evansville. And, he simply wasn’t all that popular or comfortable within the athletic department.
Not sure if you saw his postgame interview on Sunday, but I about threw up hearing Sampson talking about how his mom told him "good things happen to good people" and that is why all this success is coming his way...
College basketball was absolutely brutal in Indiana during the 70s. Knight and Indiana were at their peak with 3 Final Fours and 2 Titles in 9 years. Notre Dame went to 9 Sweet 16s over a 12 year stretch. Purdue went to the FF in 69 and 80 and never had a losing record in between. And then some goofy lookin' guy named Bird took Indiana State to the Title game in 1979.
I think you have to go back to the 50s when UI, Bradley and DePaul were all consistently in the top 20 for a comparable decade in Illinois state college basketball. And even then, you'd need to add a season where Northwestern randomly had the best player in college basketball for it to truly translate.
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Is their a previous failed head coach that holds a higher standing than Groce for us? Weber's schtick got old, Self/Kruger left, and I feel no love lost for any of our football coaches. He genuinely seemed like a great guy, decent recruiter, but someone who didn't have the coaching chops to cut it in the majors quite yet. Not to mention a clear string of bad luck.
Great to see him get a team on track and be rewarded for it.
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