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Big Jack

Big Jack
Decatur
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Illiniam1984 said:
Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense tbh.
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If BU would have left this team prior to the end of the year and JW made Chester the Interim coach. Do you really think Chester would get the job even if he won the NC? Terry is an assistant coach like Chester. No P5 head coaching pedigree which would preclude him from being considered. Although it seems stupid to me but that's how they play the game
 
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Heisenbobble

Heisenbobble
Heisenbobble
LuckyIllini said:
I’m not sold on Miller. Great coach but I wouldn’t call him much of an upgrade over BU.
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Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 
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ugottabjoshinme

ugottabjoshinme
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Saturdaze said:
If BU happens to stay and Podz is drafted as high as he is projected in some mocks, that’s just going to ratchet up the pressure on BU next season. Whats the read on Miller? Is he bouncing this year to best available option, or chance he stays at Xavier?

Everyone talking sweet 16 being the Achilles heal for Brad, well Sean has made the sweet sixteen 8 of 12 times in the tournament. Even if BU ultimately wants to stay, but Miller willing to come you have to make that move if you’re Whitman right?
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I'm not envisioning a scenario where Whitman fires Brad. I don't know anything, but the optics of that scenario seem poor.
 
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Illiniam1984

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Big Jack said:
If BU would have left this team prior to the end of the year and JW made Chester the Interim coach. Do you really think Chester would get the job even if he won the NC? Terry is an assistant coach like Chester. No P5 head coaching pedigree which would preclude him from being considered. Although it seems stupid to me but that's how they play the game
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Definitely could open the floodgates and start the carousel as mentioned.
 
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wettsten

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Chicago
wettsten
Illiniam1984 said:
Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense tbh.
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to play devil's advocate, he's only proven that he can coach another coach's players far in tournaments. that's great for this year but what about next year? and the year after? there's a lot more to the job than that. how does he build a staff? how does he recruit? how does he develop players and get them to the league? does he have the aptitude to keep it going? think there are still a lot of question marks to be answered. (and i really don't know his history or track record before texas so maybe some of these are already answered)
 
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Bigtex

Bigtex
DFW
Bigtex
wettsten said:
to play devil's advocate, he's only proven that he can coach another coach's players far in tournaments. that's great for this year but what about next year? and the year after? there's a lot more to the job than that. how does he build a staff? how does he recruit? how does he develop players and get them to the league? does he have the aptitude to keep it going? think there are still a lot of question marks to be answered. (and i really don't know his history or track record before texas so maybe some of these are already answered)
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Are we talking about Weber? LOL
 
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Oldskoolkoach

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IlliniCub 16 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638718369409933314

So this is interesting, it looks like the NCAA is going to be pretty strict on two-time transfer requests like Dain would be. It looks like even if there is a coaching change or if the current AD signs a letter for them, a waiver to avoid sitting out the year would not be approved.

It will be interesting to see how lenient the NCAA will be on players wanting to use the "mental well being" reason for transferring. Otherwise it looks like Dain will be sitting out another year if he wants to leave the orange and blue.

I appreciate the attempt to cut down on the possibility of players jumping from school to school every year, but I think coaching change should always be a reason to grant a waiver, even if a player has transferred once before.
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All 2-time transfers to Illinois- Denied
All 2-time transfers elsewhere - Approved
 
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Emerson Bigguns

Emerson Bigguns
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wettsten said:
to play devil's advocate, he's only proven that he can coach another coach's players far in tournaments. that's great for this year but what about next year? and the year after? there's a lot more to the job than that. how does he build a staff? how does he recruit? how does he develop players and get them to the league? does he have the aptitude to keep it going? think there are still a lot of question marks to be answered. (and i really don't know his history or track record before texas so maybe some of these are already answered)
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I think that's the key. Texas is an extremely old and experienced team. That roster will look wildly different next year. Taking over a team of 4th and 5th year guys who are already playing at a top 10 level is a much different undertaking than bringing in a bunch of new guys and building a team from scratch.

I'd certainly be worried about that if my orange-colored glasses were burnt.
 
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BashCtIllini

BashCtIllini
BashCtIllini
wettsten said:
to play devil's advocate, he's only proven that he can coach another coach's players far in tournaments. that's great for this year but what about next year? and the year after? there's a lot more to the job than that. how does he build a staff? how does he recruit? how does he develop players and get them to the league? does he have the aptitude to keep it going? think there are still a lot of question marks to be answered. (and i really don't know his history or track record before texas so maybe some of these are already answered)
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He's been a head coach before with varying levels of success. He appears to be a strong recruiter as well.

The way I see it, Texas is an A level job and Terry is a B/C level coach. He's coached as an A level coach this year, but the fanbase and AD want an A+ coach and don't trust that Terry is the long term answer despite how well he has performed.

So I don't think anyone is in the wrong. You can't fault Texas for wanting the best possible coach. Terry was hired as an assistant, not a head coach in waiting. You can't fault Terry for taking steps to ensure he has a job next year either.

Terry was actually pretty fortunate. He just came off a less than stellar stint as a head coach at UTEP. Based off that performance, he had no chance of landing a P5 head coaching job. He got the opportunity to use a team built to win as an audition for new jobs, including the Texas job. I have a feeling at the end of the day, everyone involved will end up in pretty good shape going into next year.
 
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MadtownIllin

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Madison, WI
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I would think that if BU's looking/leaving didn't have legs, Whitman & BU would come out with a joint statement saying BU is our coach and everything else is just unfounded rumors--wouldn't that pretty much put things to bed (and decrease the number of pages on the coaching carousel)?
 
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Heisenbobble

Heisenbobble
Heisenbobble
MadtownIllin said:
I would think that if BU's looking/leaving didn't have legs, Whitman & BU would come out with a joint statement saying BU is our coach and everything else is just unfounded rumors--wouldn't that pretty much put things to bed (and decrease the number of pages on the coaching carousel)?
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Nah, no reason to do that. It's not like major sports news outlets are reporting this stuff. Sure, it's out there, but there's no need to put a bright spotlight on it when no one nationally is saying a word.
 
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redwingillini11

redwingillini11
White and Sixth
North Aurora
redwingillini11
MadtownIllin said:
I would think that if BU's looking/leaving didn't have legs, Whitman & BU would come out with a joint statement saying BU is our coach and everything else is just unfounded rumors--wouldn't that pretty much put things to bed (and decrease the number of pages on the coaching carousel)?
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Based on what has been said here, I think there is no doubt it has legs to it. The relationship between the two seems to have certainly become frosty. But Whitman really can't fire BU, so its just a matter if BU finds a decent school that wants to hire him. We are stuck playing the waiting game until the carousel really takes off.
 
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Navy_illini

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Shrewsbery at ND will put more of a dent into PU and IU recruiting than ours. Look at our current roster we have 3 players from Chicago/suburbs currently. I can’t remember the last time we had a mostly Chicago roster and we have had good teams. It might be harder to get players from Indiana but we rarely get those other than Goode
 
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Saturdaze

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ugottabjoshinme said:
I'm not envisioning a scenario where Whitman fires Brad. I don't know anything, but the optics of that scenario seem poor.
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Honest question, why would it be bad optics? I think the casual fans would see it as an upgrade just as would the hardcore fans? There might be some critical articles written, but those are of little consequence. As soon as Miller has Some positive news like a high profile assistant coach or player signing all would be forgotten.
 
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