Lol. Did they have breakfast at the Henhouse? Drop a couple cane poles in Sangamon Creek?Bought K’s Mahomet land
Lol. Did they have breakfast at the Henhouse? Drop a couple cane poles in Sangamon Creek?Bought K’s Mahomet land
Another good FAU year and Dusty May could be on this list,...or maybe he was just missed?The only guys on this list we would go after with a chance of getting are Muss, Altman and Tang …
Sean Miller should be added to the list of potential candidates … Greg McDermott should also be added to the list …
In my opinion … If you can’t get Miller, Tang or Muss … It isn’t worth making a move …
Crime... He stole the Indy's heart.Miller is "not hirable"?! What charges were brought against him? I assume you know that SFAU had to forfeit a lot of games, and Oklahoma State faced a postseason ban for BU's time at those schools? Now with the Illini, BU was and is hireable. And no, I'm not wishing for Miller, nor anyone else, unless BU has a bad season.
On another note to the insiders (or anyone that knows): Is Kevin Boyle ever mentioned as a coaching hire anywhere (not the Illini)? He has been so good coaching high school in New Jersey, and now at Montverde, that I would think he'd get a shot.
Kevin Boyle is not going to go from a high school to a P6 college. At 60 years old, I don't think he wants to climb the ranks to a high major job. He's got a pretty good gig, and I believe he is paid quite well.Miller is "not hirable"?! What charges were brought against him? I assume you know that SFAU had to forfeit a lot of games, and Oklahoma State faced a postseason ban for BU's time at those schools? Now with the Illini, BU was and is hireable. And no, I'm not wishing for Miller, nor anyone else, unless BU has a bad season.
On another note to the insiders (or anyone that knows): Is Kevin Boyle ever mentioned as a coaching hire anywhere (not the Illini)? He has been so good coaching high school in New Jersey, and now at Montverde, that I would think he'd get a shot.
Adolph Rump: Adolph Rupp's big booty'd cousin. Thanks for the laugh.I get a kick out of this . . ."if he has a bad season" . . .
every coach in history has had a bad season at one point (and for some, many points) in their career. Today's "win today or you are out tomorrow" mindset wil, prevent 20 and 30 year coaching tenures from ever occurring. See
Krzyzewski, Mike
Wooden, John
Smith, Dean
Olson, Lute
Williams, Roy
Rump, Adolph
many more - they all had long tenures in their career, and had a bad season or seasons along the way.
Look at Holtman's record at tOSU last year. Only finished 10 games out of first place in the B1G. He is higher paid than Brad I believe. Basketball fans at tOSU must have a lot lower standard than ours do.I get a kick out of this . . ."if he has a bad season" . . .
every coach in history has had a bad season at one point (and for some, many points) in their career. Today's "win today or you are out tomorrow" mindset wil, prevent 20 and 30 year coaching tenures from ever occurring. See
Krzyzewski, Mike
Wooden, John
Smith, Dean
Olson, Lute
Williams, Roy
Rump, Adolph
many more - they all had long tenures in their career, and had a bad season or seasons along the way.
True, but this is the same university that was awful *ahem* aggressive about how they decided to abruptly end Thad’s employment. (Just Saying)Look at Holtman's record at tOSU last year. Only finished 10 games out of first place in the B1G. He is higher paid than Brad I believe. Basketball fans at tOSU must have a lot lower standard than ours do.
Yeah, he's 123-75 at tOSU, and many sources have places his seat firmly on the burnerLook at Holtman's record at tOSU last year. Only finished 10 games out of first place in the B1G. He is higher paid than Brad I believe. Basketball fans at tOSU must have a lot lower standard than ours do.
Makes 1.1 mil less than Underwood and he’s on the hot seat if tOSU doesn’t do well next season.Look at Holtman's record at tOSU last year. Only finished 10 games out of first place in the B1G. He is higher paid than Brad I believe. Basketball fans at tOSU must have a lot lower standard than ours do.
I have to agree that it is ideal to have a coach who stays for a long term with success. It seems that the "blue bloods" have historically enjoyed a long term relationship with a successful coach upon which they at least joined the club of special programs. What I have to take issue with is the bolded portion of your post. My problem is with the position that a coach should be on the "lukewarm" seat because he (or his agent) has expressed some interest in another position. If we limit our coach candidates to those who have no further goals but to come here to coach we will become a backwater of coaching that will never reach the excellence we all believe we deserve. I want to see all coaches evaluated by results - reasonable and incrementally attainable - and not fired for having lofty goals. Having said that I also believe that an AD has to maintain some list of potential next coach candidates all the time so if/when a coach jumps to another position there is an immediate and swift replacement ready to step in. I hope we don't need that but the AD's job isn't to hope but to prepare. Too long, I know, and not critical of your post generally but I just differ in that one way.
Cant remember but didnt BU say this was his "dream job" when he came here?I think the bigger issue with JW is not that BU is keeping an eye out, it's where he's looking. I think he would be understandably irked if BU was seriously considering a move to a place like Arkansas, KSU, or even Alabama (though I guess that's a bit debatable). If it's a place like UNC, Duke, KY, UK (deja vu!), even something like a TX or UCLA, then you see if you can/want to match. If not, no hard feelings.
Dreams, like recruiting, can be fluidCant remember but didnt BU say this was his "dream job" when he came here?
Said the same at OSU. Seems to be a canned phrase he's learned to throw out at the intro presser. Or he just has a lot of dreams.Cant remember but didnt BU say this was his "dream job" when he came here?
Said the same at OSU. Seems to be a canned phrase he's learned to throw out at the intro presser. Or he just has a lot of dreams.
No AD cares what was on those wore taps or what happened. It’s all legal now. As for Collins….the Duke job was always going to be Scheyer’s. ND wanted Shrews because he’s a better coach that Collins. Simple as that.Sean crashed and burned at AZ and got caught on FBI tape. Not hireable. There is a reason Sampson is still stuck at Houston.
McDermott has been at Creighton for 13 years. JMO If he wanted to move to P5 he would have gone a long time ago. He is hot after making elite 8 and is 58.
Porter Moser is 19-16 and 15-17 at Oklahoma. Kruger made NCAA 7 of 9 preceding years including last 3 so Porter did not inherit a wreck. Have to be careful about hiring a coach after a good tournament run. See John Groce
Shaka Smart appears to have rehabilitated himself at Marquette. I wonder if he will try to make the leap to top 10 program again or be happy in Big East like he was at VCU.
Chrissy at NW is coming off his 2nd NCAA bid. I am sure he wished it had come 2 years sooner so he had a shot at the Duke job. I am surprised ND did not go after him. Maybe he makes too much money.
I'm confused. You've been beating the Sean Miller drum for a while and I got the impression he was a legit option if this season is a big fail. This comment seems to back off of that. Am i reading too much into it or is there a reason you have him on that "should be added to the list of potential candidates" category?The only guys on this list we would go after with a chance of getting are Muss, Altman and Tang …
Sean Miller should be added to the list of potential candidates … Greg McDermott should also be added to the list …
In my opinion … If you can’t get Miller, Tang or Muss … It isn’t worth making a move …
Cant remember but didnt BU say this was his "dream job" when he came here?
I think you are reading too much into it. Miller would be a legit option, hence he "should be added to the list of potential candidates." Miller was not on the list of candidates in the quoted post.I'm confused. You've been beating the Sean Miller drum for a while and I got the impression he was a legit option if this season is a big fail. This comment seems to back off of that. Am i reading too much into it or is there a reason you have him on that "should be added to the list of potential candidates" category?
NoI heard Archie was never in play for us because of his friendship with Groce. Any chance that issue is still alive and extends to the brother?
Guess Holtman hasn't got any raises because I recall him being higher piad than BU when BU was hired. Think Holtman was in top 10 nationally at the time. But he also didn't get any bonuses lately.Makes 1.1 mil less than Underwood and he’s on the hot seat if tOSU doesn’t do well next season.
At time of Brad's hiring at Illinois NCAA had not yet brought charges against SFA or Oklahoma State. I suspect Jay would have moved on to next candidate if that had been the case.Miller is "not hirable"?! What charges were brought against him? I assume you know that SFAU had to forfeit a lot of games, and Oklahoma State faced a postseason ban for BU's time at those schools? Now with the Illini, BU was and is hireable. And no, I'm not wishing for Miller, nor anyone else, unless BU has a bad season.
On another note to the insiders (or anyone that knows): Is Kevin Boyle ever mentioned as a coaching hire anywhere (not the Illini)? He has been so good coaching high school in New Jersey, and now at Montverde, that I would think he'd get a shot.
you're entitled to your opinion, but if we are replacing Underwood next year, I think we would be extremely fortunate to have someone like Sean Miller available. Before things fell apart at Arizona, he was well on his way to becoming a Hall of Fame coach, and we would never have had a chance to get someone.At time of Brad's hiring at Illinois NCAA had not yet brought charges against SFA or Oklahoma State. I suspect Jay would have moved on to next candidate if that had been the case.
St Johns had no problem hiring NCAA sanctioned Pittino. They were truly desperate.
Xavier had no problem hiring NCAA charged Miller. They were truly desperate.
Kentucky had no problem hiring NCAA sanctioned Calipari because they have no problem with violating NCAA rules.
Should Illinois - the state flagship university hire a known NCAA sanctioned coach. JMO but my vote would be no. Basketball and football are just games. These are educational institutions not professional sports franchises.
We agree in a principle on everything except your last statement. NCAA basketball and football have become professional franchises, and are enroute to the death of what we have known as the NCAA.At time of Brad's hiring at Illinois NCAA had not yet brought charges against SFA or Oklahoma State. I suspect Jay would have moved on to next candidate if that had been the case.
St Johns had no problem hiring NCAA sanctioned Pittino. They were truly desperate.
Xavier had no problem hiring NCAA charged Miller. They were truly desperate.
Kentucky had no problem hiring NCAA sanctioned Calipari because they have no problem with violating NCAA rules.
Should Illinois - the state flagship university hire a known NCAA sanctioned coach. JMO but my vote would be no. Basketball and football are just games. These are educational institutions not professional sports franchises.