Conference Realignment

Navy_illini · Nov 17, 2023

IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Looks like we might be getting Oregon State and Wazzu to the Mountain West pretty soon:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1725148929191223728

Judge gives Oregon State, Washington State full control of Pac-12 and millions of dollars in assets

With their respective futures up in the air, Oregon State and Washington State earned a big victory off the field on Monday.

www.koin.com

I think with both school’s controlling $400 million in assets I think the PAC-10 name will remain and the MWC merges under the traditional P5 name. Both schools right now have decent football

Roundball Sage · Nov 19, 2023

Latest AP Football Rankings

1. Georgia

2. ‘TTHHHEEEE...’

3. Michigan

4. Washington

Now THREE of the Top Four are Big Ten.

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Nov 19, 2023

Washington and Wazzu have come to an agreement that will see the Apple Cup continue through the 2028 season.

wma500 · Nov 20, 2023

Over the weekend, ND and NBC announced an extension of their agreement, thru the 2029 season. Financial terms were not disclosed, but it's widely known ND was looking for $50-$60 million a year, to stay independent.

spotter · Nov 21, 2023

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1727010913100976282

spotter · Nov 21, 2023

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1726258220484919643

MoCoMdIllini · Nov 21, 2023

spotter said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1726258220484919643

Not the 2Pac? I kinda liked that name.

GrayGhost77 · Nov 21, 2023

MoCoMdIllini said:
Not the 2Pac? I kinda liked that name.

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Nov 27, 2023

Delaware reportedly going form FCS to FBS and will join CUSA in the 2025-26 school year.

Mr. Tibbs · Nov 28, 2023

can someone with knowledge of this explain the financial reasons why these smaller , mainly east coast schools are now finding it beneficial to jump up a level?

Ander1345 · Nov 28, 2023

Mr. Tibbs said:
can someone with knowledge of this explain the financial reasons why these smaller , mainly east coast schools are now finding it beneficial to jump up a level?

For the same reason schools fled a financially destitute Pac12

Mr. Tibbs · Nov 28, 2023

Ander1345 said:
For the same reason schools fled a financially destitute Pac12

and just what G5 conference is going to find adding Delaware worth it ?

spotter · Nov 28, 2023

Mr. Tibbs said:
and just what G5 conference is going to find adding Delaware worth it ?

A conference that was raided and needs to stay viable.

Mr. Tibbs · Nov 28, 2023

spotter said:
A conference that was raided and needs to stay viable.

I’d like to know the question for which the answer is “add Delaware as a full fledged member to the league “

there can hardly be a more worthless fanbase in DI in the metrics that matter today , and I fully realize there was a day when Delaware was a decent program in FCS .

Bucktown · Nov 28, 2023

Mr. Tibbs said:
I’d like to know the question for which the answer is “add Delaware as a full fledged member to the league “

there can hardly be a more worthless fanbase in DI in the metrics that matter today , and I fully realize there was a day when Delaware was a decent program in FCS .

Peck ‘Em Hens!

Ander1345 · Nov 28, 2023

Most FBS conferences are going to look for coast to coast programs to build up their brands/secure bigger media deals. There is a lot of FCS level schools that can bring some share of those markets... it's not necessarily about how successful the school is financially and on the football field.

I had never even heard of Kennesaw State, but looks like they're bringing a decent football product and Georgia eyes to C-USA. Rinse and repeat.

Scraps of food are better than starving, and sometimes the investment pays off.

dgcrow · Nov 28, 2023

Mr. Tibbs said:
I’d like to know the question for which the answer is “add Delaware as a full fledged member to the league “

there can hardly be a more worthless fanbase in DI in the metrics that matter today , and I fully realize there was a day when Delaware was a decent program in FCS .

Delaware won its opening round FCS playoff game last Saturday over Lafayette, and plays at #2 seed Montana this weekend. Perhaps they have delusions of grandeur.

GrayGhost77 · Nov 28, 2023

Mr. Tibbs said:
and just what G5 conference is going to find adding Delaware worth it ?

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Nov 28, 2023

Ander1345 said:
Most FBS conferences are going to look for coast to coast programs to build up their brands/secure bigger media deals. There is a lot of FCS level schools that can bring some share of those markets... it's not necessarily about how successful the school is financially and on the football field.

I had never even heard of Kennesaw State, but looks like they're bringing a decent football product and Georgia eyes to C-USA. Rinse and repeat.

Scraps of food are better than starving, and sometimes the investment pays off.

Exactly. Though I must say it does feel odd seeing some of these schools that are traditional FCS Football powers going to FBS. Heck, I can remember when it was a big deal when I started in college and Jacksonville State and Samford had just came into the OVC. Jacksonville State ended up being the top dog in the conference in football immediately.

I know geography is a big issue for North Dakota State moving up but I'd start to wonder if they eventually decide to go to FBS.

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Dec 3, 2023

Lindenwood cutting 10 athletic programs, less than 2 years after moving from D-II to D-I: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/col...cle_fb606a9e-9092-11ee-beaf-ff06f7dd0d01.html

Serious Late · Dec 4, 2023

I suspect, with FSU missing the playoffs while going undefeated, this thread will get some run on the ACC alone.

The playoff committee just told them to run for the hills.

JJE · Dec 4, 2023

Serious Late said:
I suspect, with FSU missing the playoffs while going undefeated, this thread will get some run on the ACC alone.

The playoff committee just told them to run for the hills.

I agree. Not that the BIG or SEC need any more selling points, but FSU, ND, Clemson, etc have to see what happened and think twice about their current situations.

Roundball Sage · Dec 4, 2023

Latest AP Rankings

1- Michigan
2- Washington
7- ‘TTHHHEEE’
8- Oregon
10- Penn State

FIVE of America’s Top Ten from The Big Ten.

These are the perilous waters that the Illini footballers are swimming in.

Pikeillinifan · Dec 4, 2023

JJE said:
I agree. Not that the BIG or SEC need any more selling points, but FSU, ND, Clemson, etc have to see what happened and think twice about their current situations.

I think the ND ship has sailed, at least for a while, BUT there has to be a concern for teams that even with the expanded playoff, they may get screwed on the seed they get if they aren't in the P2.

There are some rumblings about FSU and UNC being on the list for the B1G (if this FSU playoff scenario causes the ACC to implode), but after that, it seems unlikely the B1G adds in the near term.

Greensboro · Dec 5, 2023

Pikeillinifan said:
I think the ND ship has sailed, at least for a while, BUT there has to be a concern for teams that even with the expanded playoff, they may get screwed on the seed they get if they aren't in the P2.

There are some rumblings about FSU and UNC being on the list for the B1G (if this FSU playoff scenario causes the ACC to implode), but after that, it seems unlikely the B1G adds in the near term.

I think the ACC GOR keeps ACC intact & I think ESPN holding the ACC rights makes the B1G hard to envision for any ACC team in the near term. I really don’t see the FSU snub changing anything short term. Wait for the expanded playoffs & see where you stand. The ACC certainly got downgraded this year and it cost FSU a shot, but going forward it may turn out an easier path