FBI College Basketball Corruption Investigation

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Sorry for the double post. I couldn't go back and edit my previous one. I just wanted to quote Sean Miller from back when everything first came out.

I like this last sentence in particular.

I think he actually followed up his statement with "... starting now."
 
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"If Miller is fired for cause, his contract is written in such a way that he would still receive more than 85 percent of the money he is owed through May 31, 2022."

Hmm, who signed that contract. UA AD : "Gee Sean, this is an interesting term" wink, wink.
 
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Jason Terry on the state of Arizona basketball...pretty clear how he feels and he is right.

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/baske...wildcats-fire-sean-miller-fbi-ayton-bribe-fbi

Lol. Terry was ruled ineligible for taking money from two separate agents and Arizon had to vacate their 1999 NCAA tournament appearance b/c of him.

The best part will be if Arizona puts Sean Miller on administrative leave and replaces him with interim coach Lorenzo Romar. Lol. You know Markelle Fultz’s ($10k payment) former coach.
 
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kuhl84

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If I understand that article correctly and this quote from the yahoo article:

"The email recounts the interactions from Dawkins’ perspective:

“Dwayne Stephens – Trying to close the deal on Brian Bowen for Michigan State. Trying to do a trade deal for (Spartans) Gary Harris, Miles Bridges, etc”

Stephens is an assistant coach for MSU and it sounds like they were trading getting their former and current players that are pro/going pro to sign with ASM in exchange for recruits like Brian Bowen. Holy moly, if true, MSU is as dirty as any of the dirtiest programs in college basketball. Izzo has been so high an mighty that it feels great to see him and others like Miller being knocked off their high horse.

Honestly, this is about the least dirty thing that could happen. Steering a player to sign with an agent to get an agent to steer a player to a school?
 
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Miles Bridges is listed as one of the players that met with Dawkins. Will he sit immediately?

ALSO: Wasn't it Izzo that said he was sick of recruiting in Chicago because of dirty recruiting? Yet, he appears to have been in the midst of it....
 
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So it is apparent the NCAA has lack of institutional control or more likely aware and just happy to collect revenues. It seems like it's impossible to hurt the brand because fans don't really care about integrity either.

I don't really see the FBI involvement because, other than IRS, this seems more a breach of ethics than law.

I'm not for paying players because they are essentially paid. If they were to be paid more than scholarships and stipends, it becomes a bidding war where the rich get richer or a salary cap where ethical violations can still occur.

The real issue is the integrity of the NCAA. Answers aren't that hard. Big fines, lifetime bans of dirty coaches and players and pulling offenders off television and pulling that part of revenues. Fixing integrity isn't all that hard but I'm not sure there is that much interest by anybody that's in the game. Very sad.
 
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So it is apparent the NCAA has lack of institutional control or more likely aware and just happy to collect revenues. It seems like it's impossible to hurt the brand because fans don't really care about integrity either.

I don't really see the FBI involvement because, other than IRS, this seems more a breach of ethics than law.

I'm not for paying players because they are essentially paid. If they were to be paid more than scholarships and stipends, it becomes a bidding war where the rich get richer or a salary cap where ethical violations can still occur.

The real issue is the integrity of the NCAA. Answers aren't that hard. Big fines, lifetime bans of dirty coaches and players and pulling offenders off television and pulling that part of revenues. Fixing integrity isn't all that hard but I'm not sure there is that much interest by anybody that's in the game. Very sad.
great point...how can an institution that lacks control indict another for "lack of institutional control".

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Miles Bridges is listed as one of the players that met with Dawkins. Will he sit immediately?

ALSO: Wasn't it Izzo that said he was sick of recruiting in Chicago because of dirty recruiting? Yet, he appears to have been in the midst of it....

Bridges’ mother is alleged to have taken a $70 meal and a $400 cash advance from an agent. More may come out, and probably will, but $470 from an agent to a player’s mother isn’t something a coach can really control or reasonably be expected to have knowledge of.
 
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So it is apparent the NCAA has lack of institutional control or more likely aware and just happy to collect revenues. It seems like it's impossible to hurt the brand because fans don't really care about integrity either.

I don't really see the FBI involvement because, other than IRS, this seems more a breach of ethics than law.

I'm not for paying players because they are essentially paid. If they were to be paid more than scholarships and stipends, it becomes a bidding war where the rich get richer or a salary cap where ethical violations can still occur.

The real issue is the integrity of the NCAA. Answers aren't that hard. Big fines, lifetime bans of dirty coaches and players and pulling offenders off television and pulling that part of revenues. Fixing integrity isn't all that hard but I'm not sure there is that much interest by anybody that's in the game. Very sad.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's because these are state institutions so public corruption is the issue for the FBI.
 
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Bridges’ mother is alleged to have taken a $70 meal and a $400 cash advance from an agent. More may come out, and probably will, but $470 from an agent to a player’s mother isn’t something a coach can really control or reasonably be expected to have knowledge of.

I don't think the "amount" should be the issue. I know it's small potatoes.
 
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Protect Lute Olson's legacy: that's a hoot! Coming from Terry, all the richer.
 
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Yes he said something along those lines and the Arizona AD came out completley in support of Miller. Basically he is a man of such high integrity we have nothing to worry about. Whoops

Jay Bilas said that about Miller too. Now he's eating those words. Lovin' that from sanctimonious Jay. Now Dukie V, what was that you were saying about it being the fault of agents and shoe companies, not poor innocent coaches?
 
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Jay Bilas said that about Miller too. Now he's eating those words. Lovin' that from sanctimonious Jay. Now Dukie V, what was that you were saying about it being the fault of agents and shoe companies, not poor innocent coaches?

Good comment on Bilas. I really like him as an analyst - but someone who has made his money from the NCAA and College Basketball - he is feeding off the animal that he is so "high and mighty" in criticizing. It's growing weary.
 
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whatahack

St. Peters MO
I think this all falls into 3 issues
1) Players and relatives meeting with agents prior to they are officially allowed - not that big of deal to me
2) Players and relative taking cash advances, meals, etc from agents - bigger deal but out of the schools control
3) Coaches paying third parties or directly to players to come to their school - this of course is the most egregious offense which could lead to fines and jail time.

It will be interesting to see who falls into each catagory and the punishment.
 
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Bridges’ mother is alleged to have taken a $70 meal and a $400 cash advance from an agent. More may come out, and probably will, but $470 from an agent to a player’s mother isn’t something a coach can really control or reasonably be expected to have knowledge of.

I read Izzo's comments, saying neither I nor my staff knew anything about this issue with Bridges. Now today it comes out that Izzo's assistant, Stephens, was trying to funnel money to Bowen to get him to MSU. What about that one, little Tommy? He's you assistant. Oh yeah, "I didn't know what my assistant was doing!?!?!?"

There just isn't smoke around Izzo, it's an effing forest fire.
 
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Bridges’ mother is alleged to have taken a $70 meal and a $400 cash advance from an agent. More may come out, and probably will, but $470 from an agent to a player’s mother isn’t something a coach can really control or reasonably be expected to have knowledge of.

The amount is not the issue - rather that she took anything. And it was listed as an "advance payment" which implies there was potentially more at some other time to come??
 
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