altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
That's a great interview. Thanks. Enjoyed that after a long day. Neuheisel singing at the end is the chef's kiss.
Harbaugh sideways with NCAA
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Yes, it’s important to remember that Michigan is the real victim in all this. Let’s take up a collection to buy something nice for them.
Well, paying their legal fees after this whole frivolous process dissolves into nothing would be a nice gesture...
Agreed, great interview. I liked the comment about the “long line” of people who’d be willing to report Harbaugh to the NCAA. Life lesson; don’t be a Harbaugh.
I can tell you there are a whole lot of folks in Ann Arbor who would be happy to strangle the guy right about now.
I don’t see a problem that the Big Ten and NCAA presented with evidence could issue two punishments. The Big Ten has a right to protect the rest of its members and has more interest than the NCAA. The NCAA is irrelevant for college football because they don’t decide the NCAAF champion. Plus this matter requires a quick response which the NCAA is incapable of doing. Big Ten needs to ensure the punishment is not just a slap on the wrist and have their ducks in a row to handle the legal battles
Seems like voiding any wins over teams you scouted (applied to everybody of course) would be very defensible, as it’s entirely objective and consistent. Then Michigan’s position within the B1G and CFP would be adjusted based on their W-L record. What’s unfair about that?
No need to prove it had an effect on the games. Break the rule, lose the game (against the team you scouted). We don’t need to prove a clinical injury to eject a player over targeting for example. It’s not “no harm, no foul” on the field and shouldn’t be any different for breaking the scouting rule. Break the rule, void the win, and let the playoff chips fall where they may.
No need to prove it had an effect on the games. Break the rule, lose the game (against the team you scouted). We don’t need to prove a clinical injury to eject a player over targeting for example. It’s not “no harm, no foul” on the field and shouldn’t be any different for breaking the scouting rule. Break the rule, void the win, and let the playoff chips fall where they may.
Experts agree ending college football sign stealing is just a click away, so what's taking so long?
The technology exists, and it's largely been tested, but college football nevertheless lags behind in modernization of the game
www.cbssports.com
Would like to see Michigan get the "slush fund treatment" we got from the Big 10.
So long as Michigan is a playoff contender I have doubts any in year punishment will actually occur. There's just too much potential money on the line. Generally whenever there has been some sort of scandal, the NCAA or B10 will wait until the offseason, make some decision that will ultimately lead to a vacating of wins and a reduction in scholarships, and maybe a postseason ban but only if they feel like it. I expect more of the same in this one. Plus the NCAA has shown it's toothless unless Michigan actually admits wrongdoing or cooperates with their investigation.
Personally though, I think this is a huge missed opportunity. The one thing that's great about cheaters is that they play completely based on your tells and what you give them. So if you know they're cheating, so long as you're smart, you can cross them up badly. Changing all your calls and signals is unnecessary. Instead play into it. Call your typical plays and use your same signals. Lull them into giddiness over knowing what you're calling. Then every few downs, call a play with a slight tweak to the routes or blocking and just toast their coverage. They won't understand what is happening and will be less likely to give up on their methods. Done right, this would give you an advantage against Michigan for several seasons
Personally though, I think this is a huge missed opportunity. The one thing that's great about cheaters is that they play completely based on your tells and what you give them. So if you know they're cheating, so long as you're smart, you can cross them up badly. Changing all your calls and signals is unnecessary. Instead play into it. Call your typical plays and use your same signals. Lull them into giddiness over knowing what you're calling. Then every few downs, call a play with a slight tweak to the routes or blocking and just toast their coverage. They won't understand what is happening and will be less likely to give up on their methods. Done right, this would give you an advantage against Michigan for several seasons
USA Today offers many insights into B1G Commissioner Petitti and his possible perspective on Michigan’s cheating.
Here’s a portion. Petitti has the ideal background to navigate the mess Michigan created.
“Petitti is a Harvard Law School graduate who worked at one of New York’s top white-shoe firms before holding high-level executive positions with multiple sports television networks and eventually serving as chief operating officer of Major League Baseball. He’s certainly no dummy, and the notion that Petitti is simply a puppet for an agenda-driven group of coaches who want to see Michigan taken down a peg isn’t just insulting but almost certainly false. What’s more believable is that the Michigan accusations resonate more deeply with Petitti than they might with others in his position because he was in the MLB front office when the Houston Astros’ sign-stealing scandal blew up into a massive disgrace for the sport.“
Don't assume Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti is clueless or naive as he deals with Michigan
Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti already has a big call to make in the Michigan sign-stealing scandal. But don't assume he is in over his head.
www.usatoday.com
“Petitti is a Harvard Law School graduate who worked at one of New York’s top white-shoe firms before holding high-level executive positions with multiple sports television networks and eventually serving as chief operating officer of Major League Baseball. He’s certainly no dummy, and the notion that Petitti is simply a puppet for an agenda-driven group of coaches who want to see Michigan taken down a peg isn’t just insulting but almost certainly false. What’s more believable is that the Michigan accusations resonate more deeply with Petitti than they might with others in his position because he was in the MLB front office when the Houston Astros’ sign-stealing scandal blew up into a massive disgrace for the sport.“
Word on the street is Michigan has info on nine other Big Ten teams that sent people to other teams' games.
If this pans out -- admittedly a big "if" -- this could be checkmate.
Or it could be a bluff. You sure you want to call it?
(Forward about 6:00 to get to the scary stuff)
If this pans out -- admittedly a big "if" -- this could be checkmate.
Or it could be a bluff. You sure you want to call it?
(Forward about 6:00 to get to the scary stuff)
I draw a parallel with the slush fund scandal in the sense that the punishment for Michigan now must be as severe as it was for us then.USA Today offers many insights into B1G Commissioner Petitti and his possible perspective on Michigan’s cheating.
Here’s a portion. Petitti has the ideal background to navigate the mess Michigan created.Don't assume Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti is clueless or naive as he deals with Michigan
Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti already has a big call to make in the Michigan sign-stealing scandal. But don't assume he is in over his head.www.usatoday.com
“Petitti is a Harvard Law School graduate who worked at one of New York’s top white-shoe firms before holding high-level executive positions with multiple sports television networks and eventually serving as chief operating officer of Major League Baseball. He’s certainly no dummy, and the notion that Petitti is simply a puppet for an agenda-driven group of coaches who want to see Michigan taken down a peg isn’t just insulting but almost certainly false. What’s more believable is that the Michigan accusations resonate more deeply with Petitti than they might with others in his position because he was in the MLB front office when the Houston Astros’ sign-stealing scandal blew up into a massive disgrace for the sport.“
Otherwise, Petitti signals there are indeed Haves and Have Nots.
JMHO
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
If they truly had that information, you would think that some of it would have already been slowly leaked out by now. The fact that the "word on the street" only seems to be taking foot in Detroit market makes me very skeptical to the claim. The problem for Michigan is that they are constantly under investigation with Harbaugh, so they should not be given any benefit of doubt. Every team bends the rules to a certain extent, but it sure seems that Michigan is doing it in overdrive since Harbaugh has taken over.
And what rule was broken? I can’t follow the logic that is advanced scouting.
I'll tell you what, Michigan threatening to go scorched Earth and mutually assured destruction on the B10 instead of quietly doing things behind the scenes or feigning ignorance is reason in my eyes to get a much stiffer penalty as they are acting in a manner that is specifically to the detriment of the B10. I still don’t think anything will occur in season, but the more Michigan acts like this, the more I think there is likelihood they get b*tchslapped this offseason and privately lambasted by the B10. You can mess with the rules, but you can't mess with the image of the B10.
Not a problem. Just void wins by teams with solid evidence of violations (wins over scouted teams only), then let the resulting W-L record play out in the post season. That’s fair and objective with no downside. Clean it up.
HELLO! It's the same damned rule that you want to nuke Michigan for. SAME DAMNED THING!
Yes, let's call it. Even if Illinois is implicated.
Yet another "Michigan Man" trying to intimidate those around him. If you are indicative of a typical Michigan fan, I hope they go scorched earth on your team to remove your joy of watching them the next several years.
Why are you here? Leave. At least the Toledo guy is fun. You're just annoying.
BillyBob1
- Champaign
If Warren were still commissioner, all the other schools would be penalized and Michigan would be granted exclusion from any penalties.
BZuppke
- Plainfield
You’re incredible. If they did they would have already played this card at least informally to the Big Ten. Good news for Illinois football fans - a talent depleted and possibly Harbaugh less scUM team will come to town 2024 to play the 100th anniversary game.
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