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I get that it is bogus for him to get a suspension but I wish they would have just taken it (if it is going to be 3 weeks) and he would have been back before MU. Now you are in danger of losing on the Cincy/Ark games which would be much worse as those will be nationally televised games important to the rep of both the team and Kofi (in trying for a NPOY)
If the logo is the issue, wouldn't that be up to the university, not the NCAA to enforce? If the NCAA wants to do anything, I hope Kofi fights. Especially with conference realignment, the NCAA is on the verge of extinction, and now is as good a time as any. The conferences should fight for their players now.
or Let's go Brandoncaa!!!
I'm sure if that was an option they would have done so. Exhibition games likely aren't eligible to be considered for suspension. Let's hope it ends up being a 2 game suspension for Jackson st/Arkansas st with the worst case being a 3 for Marquette
These optics are going to be BAD for the NCAA. Especially as it was RIGHT before NIL AND he’s paid it back.
Since he no longer has the money from the sales, he has no longer “benefited” from it.
There has got to be a way a lawyer could tear this apart. JW is a lawyer right? Do your thing AD!
Since he no longer has the money from the sales, he has no longer “benefited” from it.
There has got to be a way a lawyer could tear this apart. JW is a lawyer right? Do your thing AD!
So, after reading some comments...
a) Does anyone have an actual NCAA rule that was broken, and
b) In what world does trademark infringement affect participation in sports, and how does the NCAA have legal standing to enforce U of I's trademark properties?
c) How do NCAA not-actual-rules take precedence over the Supreme Courts ruling?
Illinois Public Act 102-0042 says
(b) Except as provided in this Act, an athletic
association, conference, or other group or organization with
authority over intercollegiate athletic programs, including,
but not limited to, the National Collegiate Athletic
Association, the National Association of Intercollegiate
Athletics, and the National Junior College Athletic
Association, shall not prevent, or otherwise enforce a
contract, rule, regulation, standard, or other requirement
that prevents a student-athlete at a postsecondary educational
institution from earning compensation as a result of the use
of the student-athlete's name, image, likeness, or voice.
a) Does anyone have an actual NCAA rule that was broken, and
b) In what world does trademark infringement affect participation in sports, and how does the NCAA have legal standing to enforce U of I's trademark properties?
c) How do NCAA not-actual-rules take precedence over the Supreme Courts ruling?
Illinois Public Act 102-0042 says
(b) Except as provided in this Act, an athletic
association, conference, or other group or organization with
authority over intercollegiate athletic programs, including,
but not limited to, the National Collegiate Athletic
Association, the National Association of Intercollegiate
Athletics, and the National Junior College Athletic
Association, shall not prevent, or otherwise enforce a
contract, rule, regulation, standard, or other requirement
that prevents a student-athlete at a postsecondary educational
institution from earning compensation as a result of the use
of the student-athlete's name, image, likeness, or voice.
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I think the trademark thing may have been Plummer. Not sure about Kofi.
Also, didn’t an MSU player just recently avoid punishment by paying back a few hundred dollars worth of “illegal pay/benefit” or something like that?
Does anyone think the NCAA cards what people think? They are just like congress. Incompetent boobs that don't care....
No suspension has been handed down. I think he has the right to appeal any suspension and remain eligible if he and the team thought they had a chance. NCAA does not use logic or common sense on these matters. Reggie Bush is still being punished. It’s also complicated because Kofi was in transfer portal so I don’t know if the school wants to get ahead of it to avoid the NCAA
I mean most of Mark Few's suspension is exhibition games so why not
That relates to Plummer, not Kofi. But to answer the question, the NCAA can't keep players from monetizing their own name, image, and likeness. But they can, at this time, prohibit them from profiting from their association with the NCAA member school, or the NCAA. It's a murky area and I'm sure the courts will have to step back in at some point.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
Because Gonzaga self-imposed a suspension for breaking the law, not for breaking NCAA rules. Gonzaga can decide to "count" exhibition games because it just wanted to give him a slap on the wrist and have him back for the Texas game. The NCAA had nothing to do with it.
I get that, but I find it hard to believe the NCAA can enforce a trademark they don't own? That's why I wish it would go to court. The judge could immediately dismiss the case because the NCAA has no legal standing. I mean, considering its handling of UNC, the NCAA obviously interested in whether people are student athletes.
They're not enforcing the trademark though. They're enforcing student-athlete eligibility rules. The Supreme Court decision didn't do away with those entirely, just the ones barring athletes from profiting off their own name, image and likeness.
The optics to who? What makes you think the NCAA cares about optics? God knows their decisions and lack of decisions on more important matters don’t support that the NCAA cares about optics. There will be some articles on it, some discussion on sports radio and TV, and an uproar on Twitter — and none of it will impact the NCAA.
The thing that baffles me is, why would the NCAA want to do this? Kofi is a preseason first team AA, and one if the frontrunners for NPOY. He's one of the biggest stars of the college game and of course one of the biggest television draws. I imagine this decision won't get good press and the NCAA has a good excuse to look the other way. Can anyone explain how this wouldn't be a huge own goal by the NCAA?
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M tipping over
- Pdx
Depending when this gets enforced we might lose Kofi through Marquette (11/15) or Cincy (11/22) games - at least as far as important games go.
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edit: looks like the whole Hall of Fame classic could be impacted (through 11/23). That could potentially include Arkansas and Kansas State.
2021-22 Men's Basketball Schedule - University of Illinois Athletics
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edit: looks like the whole Hall of Fame classic could be impacted (through 11/23). That could potentially include Arkansas and Kansas State.
It's been a while since I looked up TM law. I assume u of I BOT owns the illini logo mark as they show up as owners for fighting illini TM. I wonder if the NCAA has an exclusive license to sell and market under the mark and or otherwise have been assigned the right to enforce the Illini's Intellectual property rights which would give them standing to sue I'd think.
sacraig
- The desert
They could be looking to show they don't play favorites based on who a player is and found a perfect way to do it without hurting a blue blood.
That'd be about a week. I'll take that over the potential 3 weeks someone brought up earlier.
So the strategy is to make people think you're merely incompetent instead? Sounds about right for the NCAA
Put enough pressure on them and they will eventually capitulate.
Left to their own devices I don’t think NIL would have ever come about. But eventually it got bad enough that people took them to court and won.
The Supreme Court already laid into them once, keep this kind of negative track record up and it won’t be long until member schools decide they’ve had enough.
That’s what I mean by bad optics. It doesn’t take much to keep re-igniting this powder keg and the NCAA surely doesn’t need to constantly stay the villain.
Now, whether they see it that way is a valid opinion and probably a true one. Emmert probably couldn’t care less…
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