Illini Basketball 2021-2022

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Do people think that Maryland fans would give an Indiana washout coach a fair chance? The expectations seem to be equally unrealistic at both of the schools. Given this, Maryland may need to take a shot at an up and coming coach. One who has not proven that they can't win at a high level.
Am I remembering wrong? I thought Williams was on the hot seat quite a bit prior to the NC. And perhaps toward the end.
 
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DeonThomas

South Carolina
It's looking sorta like this right now.......

8-3 Non-conference (Still need to win next 3, including Miznoz)
14-6 Conference (too optimistic?; 12-6 rest of the way)
2-1 BTT
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24-10 Overall

#4 Seed in NCAA Tournament
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
It's looking sorta like this right now.......

8-3 Non-conference (Still need to win next 3, including Miznoz)
14-6 Conference (too optimistic?; 12-6 rest of the way)
2-1 BTT
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24-10 Overall

#4 Seed in NCAA Tournament

I'm having a hard time finding 6 losses in B1G right now. Not saying it can't happen...but I'm going with 4...maybe 5....and that might win a B1G title. If they do that...no worse than a 2 seed.
 
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DICKnaggie

Champaign
It's looking sorta like this right now.......

8-3 Non-conference (Still need to win next 3, including Miznoz)
14-6 Conference (too optimistic?; 12-6 rest of the way)
2-1 BTT
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24-10 Overall

#4 Seed in NCAA Tournament
I'd take that hoping we have a fully healthy team going into the tourney. We won't have the continuity that some other teams have but I would bet we could at the least repeat our tournament performance from last year and maybe exceed depending on matchups.
 
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I'd take that hoping we have a fully healthy team going into the tourney. We won't have the continuity that some other teams have but I would bet we could at the least repeat our tournament performance from last year and maybe exceed depending on matchups.
Accent on: If..... our point guard comes back healthy and hungry.
 
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Some reflection of the team.

1) We are still developing, but we are still a tourney team right now (8 seed or so). Heck, we traded punches with a top 10 team last night.
2) We still don't have a good rotation due to health. I'd personally love to see Plummer being our 6th man (20 minutes) coming in to give us a spark.
3) Love our super seniors Trent & DMW. Yes, DMW has a bonehead play a couple times a year but that goes with passion. Trent is my favorite Illini, always tough D, runs point, hits shots, ... and whatever else needs done.
4) Grandison is a hidden gem, quietly plays D & hits shots
5) Need healthy Curbelo to be our best (I think he comes back in the next game)
6) We have Kofi, and no one else does.
7) Coach Underwood will play the best players and will continue to adapt - Goode, Payne and others will get time
8) I see us a solid #2-3 seed by the end of the year, and a team that no one wants to play
 
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Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
Looking ahead to the B1G schedule..

Minnesota will probably be feeling themselves a lot by the time Illinois visits them on January 2nd. They don't really play anyone they should lose to before then. Might be a tough game for the Illini on the road.
 
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Also, I think Trent Frazier is now better than Dee was.
It's always been weird to me how Dee's legend around here has diminished since he left. Usually it's the opposite. Assuming it's just because he didn't have a long pro career.

As much as I love Trent, he's nowhere close to Dee. And that's not a knock on him. Dee was special. Go back and watch some of his games with fresh eyes. I would argue he has Trent in every meaningful category (again not knocking Trent). Dee was B1G PoY and Defensive PoY in the same season. I don't have time to look right now, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.

Anyway, to bring things into this decade, TF is one of my all time favorites. Not just for his play on the court but the journey he's gone through. Really happy with the player he's become for us.
 
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Retro62

North Bethesda, Maryland
One of the things that will help is Curbelo’s floater. If he can keep penetrating and become a consistent threat it frees up Kofi for the dish.
 
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Frazier and Plumber can move and get their own shots. Kofi is great and will be better if Hawkins develops into an offensive threat from the stretch 4 position and relieve the double teams on Kofi. Grandison is an excellent set shooter if and only if he is open.Damonte is Damonte solid but not an offensive contributor. Curbelo at this time is an unknown factor. I still believe this is a sweet 16 team with a chance to be better.
 
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Go Nats 88 Illini

Fairfax, VA
Am I remembering wrong? I thought Williams was on the hot seat quite a bit prior to the NC. And perhaps toward the end.
He was on the hot seat after UM got bumped in the 1st round of the NCAA two years in a row after they had built up a roster and expectations were high. But he embraced it. I don't remember the quote, but when he was getting booed and blasted he basically said, yeah I deserve it, but they stuck with him and he had the thick skin to work through it. Turgeon really had his feelings hurt (and his family was hurt by the way he was treated - and hs younger kids) and made the decision he made. It is understandable. While there was some grumbling just before Williams retired, he could have coached for as long as he wanted. One of the things Turgeon really should have done was leaned on Williams, who has an office right there, and Turgeon just was not confident enough to bring him down to be a part of the structure of what he was doing. Okay, enough about Maryland, this is an Illini Board.
 
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I think this year is not a waste: BU still has Phase II (B10 games + Tourney) AND Phase III (March Madness)

We are still in Phase I and we are where exactly where we were last year at this time: 7 - 3. We still have a few weeks to grind it out, until Phase II starts - the real serious part of the schedule (current part is "serious and probing")
 
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I think this year is not a waste: BU still has Phase II (B10 games + Tourney) AND Phase III (March Madness)

We are still in Phase I and we are where exactly where we were last year at this time: 7 - 3. We still have a few weeks to grind it out, until Phase II starts - the real serious part of the schedule (current part is "serious and probing")
Actually better as we were 1-1 in the BIG.
 
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It's always been weird to me how Dee's legend around here has diminished since he left. Usually it's the opposite. Assuming it's just because he didn't have a long pro career.

As much as I love Trent, he's nowhere close to Dee. And that's not a knock on him. Dee was special. Go back and watch some of his games with fresh eyes. I would argue he has Trent in every meaningful category (again not knocking Trent). Dee was B1G PoY and Defensive PoY in the same season. I don't have time to look right now, but I'm guessing that's pretty rare.

Anyway, to bring things into this decade, TF is one of my all time favorites. Not just for his play on the court but the journey he's gone through. Really happy with the player he's become for us.
100%. I will always maintain that while Deron Williams was the better basketball player, Dee Brown was the better college basketball player. For example, in 2004-2005 D-Will was worth 4.6 win shares. Dee's was worth 6.8! He was extremely efficient that season, shooting 61% from 2 and 43.4% from 3 (49.9% overall). He also averaged 1.7 stls a game for his career, which is pretty impressive. I think his legacy does suffer from his lack of an NBA track record, which is unfortunate.
 
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Does anyone else wonder what this team might do if they tried to run instead of grinding it out in a mostly half court offense? Was that just because of the matchup against AZ, or is that how BU has it set up for the Illini to play? We looked pretty good during that incredible 10 minute stretch against AZ, and we were mostly getting downcourt and scoring quickly.
 
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