mattcoldagelli
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Working yourself into a lather over power rankings on Memorial Day Weekend? You guys are the easiest marks on the planet.
Sounds like an everyday kind of guy.
Not in a lather. But these early rankings plant the seeds for rankings that will be coming out when it counts in 3-5 months. Those rankings start to matter in media coverage, TV game programming, program perception, recruiting, etc., etc. Irritating is all. But I should be used to it as an Illini fan. Hopefully we can break through in a big way this year and make these takes a thing of the past.Working yourself into a lather over power rankings on Memorial Day Weekend? You guys are the easiest marks on the planet.
Seconded on your Coleman and Dain reviews.I feel like Torvik's ranking is spot on. The way I see it is Dain is going to perform better than people think. He has a big body. If he can stay injury free, he could develop pretty quickly. That's not to say that he will have some issues defensively. He will. As far as Coleman is concerned, Indiana game was a flash of what he can be. If he can average 11-7, or better that would be great. Personally, I think his ceiling is higher but that would be phenomenal. Finally a confession. I am excited about this team but still think we need a competent big (big body) back up. Finally, although I am excited about all the Freshman. I am really intrigued by Ty Rogers. I really believe that he is going to surprise some people this year. He's got handles, can rebound, pass, and DEFEND. He has great instinct and ability. He more that anyone coming in could be the glue guy that we need. If he can improve on his outside shooting, he could be really, really good. I am predicting that he will see the court early and often for this team. Go ILLINI!
I think portal activity tells you what the staff thinks. They haven't really seriously pursued a 1. They have pursued someone to help replace Kofi.Seconded on your Coleman and Dain reviews.
I’m at the point where I trust this staff to fill out a roster more than my own gut instinct. It feels like we should still add a veteran ball handler and a starting 5. But if They’re comfortable with Skyy playing a ton and the other newcomers picking up for when he needs a break I’m fine with that. Similar thought with Dain. Extremely unproven but it sounds like the staff is very much invested in him being a big minutes guy immediately. I’m fine with getting a 10-15 min backup at this point.
No one can argue that this team doesn’t have a ton of talent.
I think Rogers will end up being one of my favorite Illini of all-time by the time he leaves the program. Hoping he lasts at least years.
When is the final roster announced? Would love to see Rogers make the team.I think Rogers will end up being one of my favorite Illini of all-time by the time he leaves the program. Hoping he lasts at least years.
When is the final roster announced? Would love to see Rogers make the team.
One more cut of 1 to get to 12 then? This is fantastic news as it is an indicator of him playing great basketball. So freakin happy we got him, suk it MSU!
247 Rank for a little insight (yes I'm that bored at work):
Thanks for this. I wonder what highly ranked guys got cut.247 Rank for a little insight (yes I'm that bored at work):
Ware - #6 2022
Whitmore - #10 2022
Black - #14 2022
Trimble - #27 2022
Rodgers - #48 2022
Armstrong - #55 2022
Jackson - #1 2023
Castle - #28 2023
Carlyle - #29 2023
McCain - #32 2023
Dailey - #63 2023
Garrison - #64 2023
Queen - #10 2024
Jordan Walsh - #19 2022Thanks for this. I wonder what highly ranked guys got cut.
Haven't looked at the previous, but Walsh out of Arkansas looks to have been cut. Top 25 McDonald's AA who plays on the wing like Ty.Thanks for this. I wonder what highly ranked guys got cut.
I would remind people that constructing a roster for these types of events isn't all about picking the 12 best basketball players, but rather picking the best basketball team. I won't pretend to be an expert on any of these guys' games, but you don't want a bunch of alpha/high usage players. You need guys who will buy in to a team concept and fill a role too. You can't build a team identity if everyone on the team thinks they should be "the guy".Jordan Walsh - #19 2022
Xavier Booker - #4 2023
Caleb Foster - #19 2023
Bryson Warren - Unranked 2023
Paging Robert Rosenthal...I would remind people that constructing a roster for these types of events isn't all about picking the 12 best basketball players, but rather picking the best basketball team. I won't pretend to be an expert on any of these guys' games, but you don't want a bunch of alpha/high usage players. You need guys who will buy in to a team concept and fill a role too. You can't build a team identity if everyone on the team thinks they should be "the guy".
My gut feeling is that Rodgers is around because he will defend his behind off, play unselfishly, and not pout if he doesn't get major minutes. I wouldn't read too much into whether or not he deserves to be ranked higher based on his inclusion on this team or other guys should drop because of their omission.
Still, it's an awesome opportunity to play against some very high level competition, gain some valuable life experience, as well as confidence.
Paging Robert Rosenthal...
I would remind people that constructing a roster for these types of events isn't all about picking the 12 best basketball players, but rather picking the best basketball team. I won't pretend to be an expert on any of these guys' games, but you don't want a bunch of alpha/high usage players. You need guys who will buy in to a team concept and fill a role too. You can't build a team identity if everyone on the team thinks they should be "the guy".
My gut feeling is that Rodgers is around because he will defend his behind off, play unselfishly, and not pout if he doesn't get major minutes. I wouldn't read too much into whether or not he deserves to be ranked higher based on his inclusion on this team or other guys should drop because of their omission.
Still, it's an awesome opportunity to play against some very high level competition, gain some valuable life experience, as well as confidence.
You aren't wrong. But they also don't have to mutually exclusive. They are looking for the 12 best basketball players that make the best basketball team. I, too, would defend my behind off, play unselfishly, and not pout if not given major minutes, but nobody wants to see me attempt to play basketball.I would remind people that constructing a roster for these types of events isn't all about picking the 12 best basketball players, but rather picking the best basketball team. I won't pretend to be an expert on any of these guys' games, but you don't want a bunch of alpha/high usage players. You need guys who will buy in to a team concept and fill a role too. You can't build a team identity if everyone on the team thinks they should be "the guy".
My gut feeling is that Rodgers is around because he will defend his behind off, play unselfishly, and not pout if he doesn't get major minutes. I wouldn't read too much into whether or not he deserves to be ranked higher based on his inclusion on this team or other guys should drop because of their omission.
Still, it's an awesome opportunity to play against some very high level competition, gain some valuable life experience, as well as confidence.
While I firmly agree with your point, that doesn't mean that Rodgers isn't underrated.
You aren't wrong. But they also don't have to mutually exclusive. They are looking for the 12 best basketball players that make the best basketball team. I, too, would defend my behind off, play unselfishly, and not pout if not given major minutes, but nobody wants to see me attempt to play basketball.
So it still says A LOT about his skill level.
I agree that those things are not mutually exclusive. I don't really know if he is under-rated, over-rated, or properly rated. I just felt the conversation was on a trajectory to point out that he MUST be better than guys who did not make the cut.While I firmly agree with your point, that doesn't mean that Rodgers isn't underrated.