Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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I travelled for 2 days and 2,000 miles by train (beautiful and restful trip btw) the last time we played Marquette in Milwaukee.... We lost... I promise NOT to attend this time... But I will very much be saddened by the inability to get to this game....
 
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It would be SO satisfying to run them out of the gym ... shades of the 2002-03 beatdown of North Carolina in the Big Ten/ACC Challenge.
I was at that game. It was awesome to chant Over rated clap clap clap clap clap, and watch the Carolina fans scurry to the exits
 
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Good: Dain has definitely slimmed down, indeed.

Not so good: Well it went in, and I’ll give him credit for working at it.,.But that is not the best shooting form I ever saw. Harris’s release point is way low…and all out in front of his body too much. I think I could block him.
Well of course you could...you are Wyatt earp..
hd kevin GIF
 
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How much much do you guys care about big ten championships vs March Madness performance when judging a seasons success?

Personally I care significantly (like 90-10) more about March, but I was wondering what other people thought.
 
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Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
If Dainja get his conditioning down (looks like it's happening) and learns from last season (e.g., cuts way down on dumb fouls), he could be poised for a big jump. I think everyone knows he has it in him. Don't know where the ceiling is, but it's up there.
 
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Bigtex

DFW
If Dainja get his conditioning down (looks like it's happening) and learns from last season (e.g., cuts way down on dumb fouls), he could be poised for a big jump. I think everyone knows he has it in him. Don't know where the ceiling is, but it's up there.
TBH - I don't remember Dain getting a lot of dumb fouls. Early in the year Rodgers got a lot of silly (hands on defender) fouls but he made adjustments. Maybe I am not remembering correctly. There is much about 22/23 that is not memorable.
 
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How much much do you guys care about big ten championships vs March Madness performance when judging a seasons success?

Personally I care significantly (like 90-10) more about March, but I was wondering what other people thought.
I don't really look at it as post season vs regular season but more as different milestones throughout a year that I value differently.

1. National championship
2. Runner up
3. Final Four
4. Reg season championship
5. Elite 8
6. Sweet 16
7. Conference Tournament championship
8. Second round
9. Make the tournament

#4 and #5 are close for me but tie goes to the banner.
 
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I don't really look at it as post season vs regular season but more as different milestones throughout a year that I value differently.

1. National championship
2. Runner up
3. Final Four
4. Reg season championship
5. Elite 8
6. Sweet 16
7. Conference Tournament championship
8. Second round
9. Make the tournament

#4 and #5 are close for me but tie goes to the banner.
I put it this way. The 89 Flyin Illini did not win the Big Ten Championship. What team do we remember more 89 or a random Big 10 Championship?
 
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Good: Dain has definitely slimmed down, indeed.

Not so good: Well it went in, and I’ll give him credit for working at it.,.But that is not the best shooting form I ever saw. Harris’s release point is way low…and all out in front of his body too much. I think I could block him.
Of course you would but leave the darn couch at your mama's basement first!
 
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Harris form is almost identical to Trent Frazier
My point was HARRIS sometimes extends his arms OUT, with a little more of a fling or a push… rather than a little more UPWARD with a lift)…And that often leads to a lower release point. It eventually makes for a flatter/less arched shot. In other words, late in the game with zero legs…if he’s not RIGHT ON he’s in trouble.

Generally when he two-steps/hops into his jumper he gets it into the shot pocket nice…At that point its head high/or a little above which is all okay/like you want. It’s just that release. That’s where it goes haywire.

I know it’s a highlight reel. But I actually think the smoothness of Harris’s stroke has deteriorated over time. His stroke looks smoother in most of these examples and his release point is generally higher. Which is generally a good thing.



As to Trent. Trent had great command of his shot; obviously. And and made himself a very very good shooter. But his shot was not picture perfect either. But he made it work. Plummer was MUCH more of a pure shooter.
 
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Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
How much much do you guys care about big ten championships vs March Madness performance when judging a seasons success?

Personally I care significantly (like 90-10) more about March, but I was wondering what other people thought.
I get far more lengthy and consistent enjoyment out of the pursuit of regular season accolades and seeding hopes (obviously). The tournament is such a crapshoot, i just refuse to expect the world from it. I obviously would get peak excitement from a deep tournament run, but I don't like the idea of the entire season basically not mattering as it relates to my joy in sports.
 
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Illini92and96

Austin, TX
I put it this way. The 89 Flyin Illini did not win the Big Ten Championship. What team do we remember more 89 or a random Big 10 Championship?
Making the final four is what makes for a magical season that people tend to remember. We don’t talk as much about the outstanding 2001 team that only made the elite 8. That team would be ingrained in our memories if we had beaten arizona In the elite 8. (Don’t get me started on that game)
 
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How much much do you guys care about big ten championships vs March Madness performance when judging a seasons success?

Personally I care significantly (like 90-10) more about March, but I was wondering what other people thought.
There are two kinds of college basketball fans, casual and serious. Casual fans only pay attention to March Madness, especially the Final Four. Serious fans care about important stuff, like winning the recruiting rankings.
 
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