Joel Goodson
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teams with great backcourts are everyone's kryptonite
how many BIG teams fit the bill?
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teams with great backcourts are everyone's kryptonite
how many BIG teams fit the bill?
I think we need more than a couple long range bombers; honestly. (Maybe we end up and have something kinda close to that some of the time…who knows? Harmon? Quincy? + Domask & Goode…who knows indeed.)
Even if D& L both prove lethal…like you said. Can we have them both on the court at the same for their offense when most needed?
Also: 1.) near inevitability of injuries (of someone key) 2. misc. streaks/slumps
Another player who can control the ball and get others better shots would also help.... If only we knew what position is called and knew it was an off season need.
FT shooting falls on the coaches? I think you can blame them for a lot of things but not that. There's no coach that's going to make guys that shoot 53% (Dainja), 20% (Harris), and 39% (Rodgers) suddenly shoot even 65%, which is still terrible. That's just guys that can't shoot FTs & no amount of practice or coaching is going to totally fix that.
I suppose they are. But you could whittle that down to great teams in general are everyone else’s kryptonite. I’m just saying it is a potential concern.
How many B1G teams fit the bill? Sure, that’s probably a key reason they lose in March. (Looking at you Purdue)
I have a completely different experience and have had enough first hand proof to feel confident that proper coaching in fundamentals can increase FT efficiency pretty quickly. These guys, DD, Harris, and Ty have shown hand/eye coordination fat beyond what they display from the FT line. In all cases, they do very few things that make FTs more likely to go in. They have way too much unnecessary movement, especially their eyes (which should move vertically only) and their lift and release varies greatly. Just those two things done correctly on a consistent basis would double their collective efficiency.
I think your greatly overstating that.
I just want our perimeter shooting to improve....doesn't necessarily have to be from beyond the arc....just shoot it well enough from the perimeter to keep the other teams defense honest...and then penetrate into the lane and create havoc
Jeremy Sochan of the Spurs shot 45% from the line through December 19th and 76% the rest of the season just by switching to a one handed free throw. I think all three that you mentioned have shotty mechanics and I believe they could improve a lot just by fixing some subtle issues.
“I told Rick Barry I’d rather shoot 0% than shoot underhand. I'm too cool for that” - Shaq
Chances are this has been pitched before but it’s not going to catch on. Most players care about their image, it affects your confidence on the court. It takes a very humble and open person to consider a technique that has been mocked for decades. Players like Sochan giving it a shot is a step in the right direction though.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Terrence Shannon Jr. looking to take next step after return to Illinois men's basketball team
Patience has helped turn Terrence Shannon Jr. into a top college player and NBA prospect. He decided to keep that patience when deciding to play his final season at Illinois.
Not sure where to put this, but most of the town of Lahaina in Maui has been destroyed by massive wildfires. I’m guessing that probably means the Lahaina Civic Center, home of the Maui Invitational.
Obviously, the number one concern is the safety of the people, but if it is in fact among the damage, it’ll be a shame to never see that tiny gymnasium hosting such big name teams ever again.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/...re-crews-continue-battle-wind-whipped-flames/
Obviously, the number one concern is the safety of the people, but if it is in fact among the damage, it’ll be a shame to never see that tiny gymnasium hosting such big name teams ever again.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/...re-crews-continue-battle-wind-whipped-flames/
Not that many teams have lighting quick guards. The one team in conference that I think could give us some fits is Michigan state with their depth at guard, but even then you're worried about who is guarding Walker and Akins.
Ty would likely be a good matchup for Hoggard since Hoggard relies on his size and strength. Shannon takes one of Walker/Akins but it does ask the question of who guards the other. Maybe Domask can stay with Akins or even Hoggard and give Ty Akins.
I think Domask and Goode can play together. They both have good size where they can play small ball 4 and the other can play on the wing.
Though Domask is a better athlete than a lot of people give him credit for here. I think a lot of people think he's going to be cement footed simply because he's white.
They were a terrible 3pt shooting team last year but they added 3 guys in Domask, Harmon, and Guerrier that all shot better than anyone last year outside of Goode and they will hopefully get a full season of Goode to add to that.
Harmon shot 34% from 3 while operating as a primary ballhandler but was 95th percentile on spot up opportunities. He could look very good playing more off ball.
Also, they simply need to limit bad shot attempts. Coleman simply can't be putting up 4 threes a game if he's shooting 28%. Ideally, Shannon also cuts back a bit and is getting more rhythm shots instead of shooting them off the dribble.
band camp
- STL City
Civic center is kind of up the hill from old Town Lahaina. So maybe it survived.Not sure where to put this, but most of the town of Lahaina in Maui has been destroyed by massive wildfires. I’m guessing that probably means the Lahaina Civic Center, home of the Maui Invitational.
Obviously, the number one concern is the safety of the people, but if it is in fact among the damage, it’ll be a shame to never see that tiny gymnasium hosting such big name teams ever again.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/...re-crews-continue-battle-wind-whipped-flames/
I'm hoping the huge banyan tree in the square survived. Lots of historic buildings in old town.
I love Maui. Bummer story.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Yep. Great memories from my honeymoon there. Beautiful place.
chiefini
- Rockford, Illinois
This makes me so sad. We went to the Maui Invitational in 2000 to watch the Illini for our 25th anniversary. Got to see Bill Self’s first three games as the Illinois coach. Beat Maryland & Gary Williams by ten and UNLV and Jerry Tarkanian by five. We ended up losing in the finals to Lute Olson’s Arizona 79-76. The first night with the coaches’ banquet was a blast. Calhoun from UConn, Williams, Tarkanian, Denny Crum from Louisville, and Olson (where I first learned to despise Lute and AZ) on the dias all roasted the newbie Self, who held his own quite well. It was hilarious. I have five other distinct memories from that time in Maui: 1) I was walking outside our hotel, the Sheraton, with my husband before the banquet, and I heard footsteps behind me. I turned around, and it was freshman Sergio McClain. I greeted him with ”Hello. I know who you are, Sergio. Welcome to the Illini. We’re so glad you chose us.” Shyly stopping to talk with us and very friendly, he was astounded that I knew who he was. 2) We got to meet, talk to, and take photos with Damir Krupaglia at the banquet. He was special to us since he was the first (and only) player from Rockford to wear my husband’s dad’s #33 since his dad wore it. 3) After the first game, the DIA tour fans waited for the team bus to get back to the Illinois hotel. There were about 150 of us who cheered the kids and Self as they were getting off the bus after their first game when they blew out Maryland. Self gave a short, very emotional impromptu speech saying how grateful he was for our presence and loud vocal support. I’ve been a fan of his ever since. 4) During the championship game, even though we had about a quarter as many fans as AZ did due to their close proximity and high potential, they were ticked off that our small group out yelled their U of A with our U of I on top of their cheer. It was awesome. 5) After the AZ game where we, the huge underdog team that no one expected anything of, almost upset them, we drove to downtown LaHaina (where the huge banyan tree was) with our Illini car flags on our rental car. We stopped at a stop sign and high fived Sergio and freshman Jerrance Howard, who were standing there waiting to cross the street. Our Illini contingent took over the small town as we were all pretty proud and happy that we did so well, and the players were celebrating, too. It would be an awful shame for Illinois (and every team) to never experience this really fun time again and have this prestigious tournament be lost forever.
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This is all pretty cool to hear. Thanks for the post. I’m curious about the L.Olson stuff; I must admit. I’m not disagreeing. I never met the man/followed his dealings all that closely during the Point Guard U days. He had one helluva a run out there…Anyways just curious. Could you expand on that? It sounds like a good one.
1. Michigan State has an elite back court
2. Purdue's is or projects to be great
3. Maryland's is great
4. Bruce Thorton and Roddy Gayle has great level potential at OSU
5. I don't really think it but some people might be high on IUs back court
- Boo Buie is great at Northwestern but I'm sure he's enough to call the backcourt great
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Update on Lahaina.
www.spokesman.com
Maui Invitational 'monitoring' local wildfires; Lahaina Civic Center evacuated
Raging wildfires across the west coast of Maui forced evacuations early Wednesday morning, potentially jeopardizing the island's ability to host the Maui Invitational college basketball tournament this November.
www.spokesman.com
Thanks for sharing this. I used to live on Maui so this touches me personally. I attended multiple Maui Invitationals. Besides the high quality basketball on a small court, the proximity to the players and coaches was great. I remember walking down the main street carrying on a conversation with Brian Cook with other players like Sergio nearby. It appears that much of Lahaina must be gone. That's a shame. I hope that incredible tree survived.Not sure where to put this, but most of the town of Lahaina in Maui has been destroyed by massive wildfires. I’m guessing that probably means the Lahaina Civic Center, home of the Maui Invitational.
Obviously, the number one concern is the safety of the people, but if it is in fact among the damage, it’ll be a shame to never see that tiny gymnasium hosting such big name teams ever again.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/...re-crews-continue-battle-wind-whipped-flames/
MSU is great.
Lol in what world is Purdue's backcourt projected to be great? Sure it should be improved but they certainly aren't going to blow by the Illini with quickness.
Everyone else has a ton of questions marks. Young is great at Maryland but there is nobody proven beside him. Similarly OSU has Thornton and some talented young guys but nobody really proven. Indiana's is meh, and Buie is a great college player but more of a strong physical guard than lightning quick.
Other then MSU, Illinois is basically right there with everyone else. Shannon and a question mark with Rodgers/DGL/Harris but also have Harmon which is something those other schools don't really have. In general the Illini have an older and more experienced roster than most of the conference.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it seems like the tree is gone. The entire district is supposedly gone.
The pictures from the sea make it look absolutely apocalyptic. It's a shame.
Illini in Indiana
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Well deserved after game celebration
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