He is better off the ball and getting in position to shoot the three.
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That is not a good comparison at all. Weber was no longer making the NCAA tournament and Turner had losing seasons. Underwood is winning at a much much higher percentage than either of those Coaches
If Ty has a consistent jumper he’s 1st team all big ten and would be destined for the NBA after next year…..so hopefully that
As a completely baseless response to that baseless statement, i would eat my @#$-+$@ hat with ketchup outside SFC if that statement was applicable to Ty.
I can think of other guys on this year's team or on other rosters that I'd buy it, but not that dude.
I agree completely. I’m just saying based on who has the leverage after a year, he’s got the most imo. Not saying he’s using it. Id be shocked if he’s using it, but in this day and age, can’t really be shocked by anything.
Fair enough!
It's weird being the same age as old people
I'm not old... I'm big boned. Oh wait
Didn’t Sincere also confirm?
Yes, but he also deleted his confirmation Tweet, so….
It is interesting that BAM has been to an elite 8 was fired from KSU and then KSU goes to another elite 8
Meanwhile we haven’t even made it to a sweet sixteen but BU has had good teams with great conference success. If Covid would have wanted 1 month I think BU would have had more March success
I feel like this was said about RJ last year. You just never know…
Well, I was responding to someone who's argument was only Big Ten championships...But if you want to talk winning percentage. From 2009-2011 Bruce Weber won 65 games and lost 29 games, had a large segment of the fanbase done with him, wasn't quite bad enough to get fired, and he was gone after one more bad year. Over the last 3 years, 2021-2023, Brad Underwood has 67 wins and 30 losses. I'll grant you that Brad's best 3 year window 68 wins and 27 losses is a higher win percentage than 2009-2011 Bruce Weber, but I don't think 1 win/year over that timeframe is a much much higher percentage or that the fanbase is after someone slightly better than the years before Bruce Weber was fired.
When BU was hired, if the fanbase was told that in year's 3-6 of his tenure he would average a 22-10 record with 2 total tournament wins, I'm not so sure the hire would have been viewed favorably.
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The starting point matters.
Edit: And the average end of season KenPom rankings for those 3 teams was 33.
BU’s last 3 teams have averaged a 20.
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He was told to by the staff… but who knows at this point.
The staff told him to delete a Tweet where he confirmed he was coming back? Now THAT makes me worried for Sencire.
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As in: the staff didn’t want to put out a precedent where all guys staying had to announce they were staying. Not like they want to push out Sencire.The staff told him to delete a Tweet where he confirmed he was coming back? Now THAT makes me worried for Sencire.
I’m sure they very much want to keep the Bandit.
Underwood gets compared to Izzo alot for their fire and demeanor. I was not as deeply into these things then as I am now, but what was the thought on izzo after his first 5-6 years? This is really just my curiosity, but heres what I see…
1. Izzo was the guy who followed the guy, which is always a difficult spot to be in, even if the guy hand selects you. (Underwood had the benefit of any level of success endearing him to the fan base)
2. How does Izzo compare to Jud in demeanor? (groce was not as outwardly intense as BU, and the opposite type of guy usually seems to get hired after the previous one is fired)
3. Izzo took over in a different time, with intense coaches (Vs let’s say calmer nowadays) being the norm. In the big ten alone you had knight and keady, which probably made Izzo look like a teddy bear. (Izzo, Fran and BU go crazy in the big ten now, who else in our conference and nationally?)
Was there a time early in his career where people were like Izzo is too crazy, he can’t do this?
1. Izzo was the guy who followed the guy, which is always a difficult spot to be in, even if the guy hand selects you. (Underwood had the benefit of any level of success endearing him to the fan base)
2. How does Izzo compare to Jud in demeanor? (groce was not as outwardly intense as BU, and the opposite type of guy usually seems to get hired after the previous one is fired)
3. Izzo took over in a different time, with intense coaches (Vs let’s say calmer nowadays) being the norm. In the big ten alone you had knight and keady, which probably made Izzo look like a teddy bear. (Izzo, Fran and BU go crazy in the big ten now, who else in our conference and nationally?)
Was there a time early in his career where people were like Izzo is too crazy, he can’t do this?
I wonder how much revamping the entire roster with transfers impacted KSU's meteoric rise this year?
Since our loss, I've been pondering the idea of roster construction and why on paper this team looked to be solid, but ultimately didn't end up living up to that potential. Love thoughts from others on factors that BU needs to consider for next year's roster construction: buy vs. build, old vs. young, new vs. existing, role vs. star, 1v1 vs. team play, offense vs. Defense, etc etc
My take is that there is of course going to need to be a balance of all of these factors, but what I would prioritize first is culture fit, age/experience and role. I would like us to go after a playmaker that wants their hands on the ball and can create off the dribble in a 1:1 situation. I then want to surround that person with seasoned role players...seasoned doesn't mean grad transfer or 1 year rentals only, but someone who has played college ball already and is comfortable playing a role on the team, just trying to do it at a larger school or more competitive conference (a la Plummer or feliz). Lastly, this season I would prioritize finding culture fits. BU bent over backwards to change his style/approach to fit the team he had. I think that was a no-no. Need to find guys that are ok with being yelled at from time to time and sat on the bench...players with enough IQ to not try and repeat the sins of the past.
My take is that there is of course going to need to be a balance of all of these factors, but what I would prioritize first is culture fit, age/experience and role. I would like us to go after a playmaker that wants their hands on the ball and can create off the dribble in a 1:1 situation. I then want to surround that person with seasoned role players...seasoned doesn't mean grad transfer or 1 year rentals only, but someone who has played college ball already and is comfortable playing a role on the team, just trying to do it at a larger school or more competitive conference (a la Plummer or feliz). Lastly, this season I would prioritize finding culture fits. BU bent over backwards to change his style/approach to fit the team he had. I think that was a no-no. Need to find guys that are ok with being yelled at from time to time and sat on the bench...players with enough IQ to not try and repeat the sins of the past.
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