Don’t the salaries within a trade need to match more or less, or is that no longer the case. When I read the original post that is what I thought was being referenced not salary cap.
Illini in the NBA
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Ah, you're right, forgot about that wrinkle. My
bad. I looked it up and that applies if team is over tax level cap or would be over tax level with trade. So it seems like with an Ayo-only trade the salary of player in return would be capped at about $4mil. Unless the Bulls have a trade exception they can use, which I have no idea if they do. NBA trade rules are unnecessarily complex lol.
Loyalillini10
- Urbana, IL
I have to admit, I love the I-L-L…I-N-I chants from the crowd when Ayo comes into the game and after a win. If you are able to watch the replay of yesterday’s game, you hear it all throughout the post-game interviews.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
Gotta wait til Dec. 15th to include any players signed this summer. Would be surprised if anything gets done before then.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
I 100% agree, and also think it's easier to develop bad habits playing for a bad team. On a good team, you can't afford to make mistakes. I like Coby but think you trade him over Ayo b/c you are going to get a better return. I don't think Ayo, at this stage, brings back anything in a trade that can move the needle. His value to the Bulls in terms of excitement, maturity, etc., is higher than his value would be to most other teams.
Duarte was a lottery pick. There is no reason to expect Ayo to get that many minutes right now.
They are 6 games into the season. He'll get playing time if he continues to hustle and play defense.
I said it before, but I thought Ayo's game could mimic Derozan's with all those 2 point jumpers, getting to his spot, etc. I think Ayo's in a great spot to get to learn from him and gain experience developing his own game. I think he's playing a little scared on the offensive end. I don't think he's seen 7 footers keep up with his speed and I feel like he's missing layups that he normally makes in his sleep. He'll adapt...he always has.
TheFameProtector
- Champaign
I like DeRozan's game but hope Ayo becomes a bit more capable and willing to take/hit the 3. For all his talent, if it weren't for the Bulls, DeRozan might be making ~$10 mil this year, and a lot of that depressed market has to do with his unwillingness to launch 3s. For better or worse, that's the way the game is played these days and if you want to be in super high demand, you gotta be able to hit from distance. The other parts of DeRozan's game are a good template though. I've always thought Ayo's goal should be a combination of Khris Middleton (on offense) and Jrue Holiday (on defense), but DeRozan + Ball/Caruso isn't a shabby goal either.
blackdog
- Champaign
DeRozan has always been an explosive athlete too which Ayo is not. It helps his game that he can blow by and dunk on defenders or just rise up over them for a jumpe. I don't Ayo is really capable of that at this level.
I do think Ayo is going to get better at finishing based on how much he improved from freshman when he was getting stuffed a lot to. Like you said though the 3 ball is a huge part of the NBA game and he needs to get more consistent there if he wants to have a regular role in the future.
Was watching some highlights, and Ayo can get to the basket. I know he's not going to jump over people, but he can get to the hoop. He probably needs more strength to help him finish.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
I will never underestimate Ayo and what he can or can't do....he might not be able to do some things now, but give him time to work on it and he will at least get better at it....His improvement from his frosh year to the end of his Illini career was amazing and i really think he has the mental strength to work his tail off to overcome whatever he lacks now to become , if not a star , a steady producer at this level.....
I want to agree with you and I love watching Ayo garner minutes for the Bulls so early in his career. I want him to succeed so much because he was a great student athlete while at IL and comes from a terrific family. If anyone deserves success, it is him. But I just am not seeing what he brings to this team from a perspective of offense, especially a team that is so loaded in the back court. I hope like hell I'm wrong and that Ayo improves his game throughout his career to the point where he is a strong contributor to the team he is on. But judging from my own 2 eyes, there are times where aside from good to great defense he just looks invisible out there. It's very very early in the season and it could just simply be a thing where he's finding his niche on this team, and him understanding his role for this team that he's letting things come to him and he's not pressing things too much. Get to the All Star break, he could be literally a completely different time of rookie/player and be contributing more in the box score.
Was curious about how DeRozan's athleticism was judged coming out of college, and couldn't remember where he went, so did some googling. Answer is he was a very highly regarded athlete, top 5 recruit, burger boy, one and done and #9 pick in draft. All the stuff. But that's not what this post is about.
I was really surprised to learn that USC retired dude's number based on one year, in which he scored 13.9 ppg (third on team), and was on a team that got a #10 seed to the tourney and lost in the 2nd round. He did win the Pac-10 tourney MVP (and USC won the tourney) and he did make the Pac-10 all freshman team. I think that's a pretty thin resume on which to retire his number. Especially since he's only one of 7 players to ever have their numbers retired by that program. That is all, end rant.
I don't think he is being asked to bring the offense. He basically is being asked to bring energy, be a threat from 3 if needed, and just defend. So it might be difficult to judge him this early on his offensive skills at the NBA level. I agree it's a loaded backcourt, but obviously Donovan believes he brings something and I think all he is being asked to do is defend and bring energy. When they get into their half court set, he's buried in the corner almost as if they are just trying to keep a defender out of the way and play a little 4 v 4. But as he gets comfortable with the speed and continues to work on his skills and athleticism, I think you'll see a different Ayo by year end. Not sure about All-sTar break, but definitely by Year End. How cool is it though that we get to talk about an Illini like this?!
Whitmans Sampler
- Eastern Iowa
Ayo getting some late 1Q minutes tonight @Celtics. Working his way into the rotation with defense and energy.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Billy likes Ayo
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
13 mins 6pts 3rb 1ast in the first half. Most minutes off the bench
That was awesome Ayo
frozenrope9190
- Aurora, IL
Dosunmu having quite the game in Boston.
AYO for threeeeeeee!
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