Illinois 105, Penn 70 Postgame

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Couldn't watch the game live. Watched the recording this morning. Watched the second half twice, trying to figure out how we extended the lead so easily.

Just a great second half.
 
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But your baseline you are going for is possibly the GREATEST half of offensive efficiency in NCAA tournament history. Sure I “want” that, but expecting it or even being delusional enough to think it will happen again, seems like a self-imposed prison of misery I don’t need.
Oh trust me, I get that. Wanting it and expecting it are two different things. I was just responding to the literality of your post, something I wish more people would do instead of trying to dig 5 layers deep into a post.

"I wish Coach Underwood would use timeouts better"
"SO YOURE SAYING THE BEST COACH WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST TWO DECADES ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH AND SHOULD GET FIRED?!?!?"
 
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Well, first of all, yes. You don't? Weird to sell your team short. Why would someone say "hey, we played this well in game 1, but let's aim lower moving forward."? Of course, I'm taking your question literally, where I know you meantit this way: "you mean to tell me that if we don't play this well the rest of the tournament you'll be a hater on the team?"

It's almost like you glossed right over the part where I said this:

I mean... we played better in the second half than the first half, so we literally did not play the first half as well as we could have. In fact, most commentators and users on this forum even admited we didn't start the game well. Why did you go straight for the "I gotta get defensive" stance instead of reading the post literally?

So many people on this board have never played ball competitively to understand that it's almost impossible to keep up an offensive performance like that for 10 minutes, let alone an entire half, let alone an entire game. Like we were averaging almost 2 PPP in the second half which is astronomical. If you expect anything even close to that with regularity against tougher opponents you will always be miserable.
 
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To be fair, there is luck involved in both offensive and defensive rebounding. But, positioning yourself correctly and being “correctly aggressive” can mitigate the bad luck and increase the good luck.

Plus being 8 inches taller helps.

Edit: and as illini0440 said, they can better position themselves by knowing the likelihood of where missed shots likely rebound to.
A lot of rebounding is wanting the ball more than your opponent.
 
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I must confess. I went to bed at 10:30 pm confident that this Illinois team would take care of business in the second half. I liked this match-up from day 1. Because Illinois can score and defense is not necessarily an emphasis on Fran McCafferty coached teams. I stated in the pre-game thread that Illinois would score a bunch of points. And they did,
 
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I would really like to put a dislike button on this comment. I can think of several games where we played 40 minutes of very good basketball. Mizzou for one.
I find it humorous that the CBS talking heads have been promoting this Mizzou team. I am talking specifically about the Sirius CBS college radio network.
 
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The thing that stood out to me was the ball movement in the second half. I believe we had 10 assists after halftime and the ball was REALLY hopping.

Handle VCU’s pressure and keep the ball moving like we did in the second half and we’ll be in good shape.
 
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The fact that we’re having a conversation of whether or not that performance satisfied folks 🤦‍♀️
I think they naysayers are looking at from the perspective how far we can go in this tournament based on our consistent or inconsistent play...And you have to admit our performance against Penn during the first half (even though we played better in the 2nd half) won't cut it to get past the SW16. We have to play well for the whole game..
 
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I think they naysayers are looking at from the perspective how far we can go in this tournament based on our consistent or inconsistent play...And you have to admit our performance against Penn during the first half (even though we played better in the 2nd half) won't cut it to get past the SW16. We have to play well for the whole game..
In 2024, we led 14seed Morehead State by 1 at halftime.

We did make the E8 IIRC.
 
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I think they naysayers are looking at from the perspective how far we can go in this tournament based on our consistent or inconsistent play...And you have to admit our performance against Penn during the first half (even though we played better in the 2nd half) won't cut it to get past the SW16. We have to play well for the whole game..

Really think the first half being poor is being overstated

Held a 10 point lead with a 28-14 rebounding edge and only 2 turnovers… the one bad thing was the 6-22 from three (defense was good also outside of that last play of the half)
 
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Really think the first half being poor is being overstated

Held a 10 point lead with a 28-14 rebounding edge and only 2 turnovers… the one bad thing was the 6-22 from three (defense was good also outside of that last play of the half)
By halftime you could see that Illinois held a clear advantage on the offensive end of the floor.
 
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I think they naysayers are looking at from the perspective how far we can go in this tournament based on our consistent or inconsistent play...And you have to admit our performance against Penn during the first half (even though we played better in the 2nd half) won't cut it to get past the SW16. We have to play well for the whole game..
The people who say this are insufferable. Plain and simple. And they're miserable fans who don't watch much basketball outside of Illini games and frankly, don't understand basketball.

Michigan had a 4 point lead at halftime. Duke trailed at the half. I can go on and on and on.

There is zero value added in saying, if we play like that for 40 minutes, we won't beat Houston, in Houston. What's the freaking point in being negative after a game we led by almost 40 and where we scored more points than any other team that day?

Let the rest of us enjoy the win and enjoy the ride and stop crapping in our cheerios.
 
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For the record, I would like to add that I never said Illinois played poorly. Not once. In fact, I was very specific in that we did NOT play poorly.
Not that we played poorly, but...
I don't know how much more clear I can be. My commentary was never that we played poorly or bad or whatever, but that in the literal sense we played better second half than first half, and thus, could have scored more points if we played both halves the same. Which was what my comment was in reference to originally. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I don't think you can really say anything about the game that does justice, just let the performance speak for itself.

Boy, was that a frustrating game!

WHAT?! Frustrating?

Yes! Why can’t the Illini play like that all the time?

(OK... the level of competition might have something to do with it?)

Still – it’s a beautiful thing when it happens.
 
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For the record, I would like to add that I never said Illinois played poorly. Not once. In fact, I was very specific in that we did NOT play poorly.

I don't know how much more clear I can be. My commentary was never that we played poorly or bad or whatever, but that in the literal sense we played better second half than first half, and thus, could have scored more points if we played both halves the same. Which was what my comment was in reference to originally. 🤷‍♂️
Yes, we could have scored more points if we played the best offensive game of basketball ever played, anywhere.

Do you not see how freaking ridiculous that sounds when we scored 105 points in an NCAA tournament game and covered the spread by over 10 points?
 
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