For Lieb's contribution.......
Illinois 106, Saint Francis (Pa.) 48 Postgame
Lieb's touch put-back was pretty impressive and I loved that he attacked the rim for his dunk was surprising. For Podz, he had several stints early in the game and he just looked like he hesitated, just a split second. Then he drove to the hoop and threw up a bit of a circus shot (that almost went in) but seemed like an aggressive and confident drive. When he made the two free throws I hoped seeing the ball go in would help him out. Then he go the dunk, swung out then back, looked like "oh yeah, I remember this!" As soon as he stepped into the next shot I knew it was good. If that game had been 2 minutes longer he would have hit double figures. I hope the confidence carries forward.
Yep, my wife has vertigo occasionally and that's what she was told. Has special exercises to get them back in place.
When she has it bad she can't stand up without holding on to something, just like what AC did with BU when he came out earlier in the season.
Illinois has a good freshman class playing right now.
We have an outstanding class coming in with more good gets possible.
I am basking in the riches of Illini recruiting momentum. Feels good.
We have an outstanding class coming in with more good gets possible.
I am basking in the riches of Illini recruiting momentum. Feels good.
The game he got injured he continued to play, after a fall like he took, sports medicine should have pulled him and done a baseline comparison test before returning to play.
There has been some recent commentary and criticism of BU’s in-game coaching, and perhaps it’s valid, but I think I’m ready to say Brad is our goat in terms of getting his teams to improve in any given week over week period. We have a newfound, very legitimate offensive identity established in quick fashion without our point guard. There was no identity to speak of just a few short weeks ago.
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Not exactly sure how to read this but it doesn’t seem positive from Hawkins dad.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Illinois makes school-record 18 3-pointers in rout
The Illini, who were 18 of 34 from the arc Saturday, face Mizzou at Enterprise Center on Wednesday.
CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — Kofi Cockburn scored 21 points with 11 rebounds and Alfonso Plummer and Jacob Grandison combined for nine of Illinois’ program-record 18 3-pointers in a 106-48 win over St. Francis (Pennsylvania) on Saturday.
The 7-foot, 285-pound Cockburn had no rival in the paint, making 9 of 11 shots with four dunks and bringing an intimidating defensive presence inside against the Red Storm (4-6). His double-double was the 34th in his career.
Plummer just missed going over 20 points for the seventh straight game after hitting five 3-pointers and scoring all of his points in the first half when the Fighting Illini (8-3) took a 24-point lead. Grandison hit four from beyond the arc in scoring 18 and going over 1,000 points for his career.
The Illini were 18 of 34 from outside the arc and shot 66% percent overall, dominated the boards 44-27 and outscored the Red Flash 40-16 in the paint. The bench scored 34 points. Illinois went over 100 points for the first time since making 17 3-pointers and scoring 122 points versus North Carolina A&T in November 2020. This was the fifth straight game Illinois has made at least 11 3-pointers.
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The bold sentence above really took me by surprise....I knew we have been red hot from the 3 py line , but that is a high number to me...........
Illini in OC
In. The. Alley.
SPECULATION ALERT!!! I read this as former NBA-player Dad appreciates/expects/wants the hard coaching but doesn't like things discussed in public. Recall Dad's comments about Coleman's development and need to put in the work prior to FR season.
I am huge Coleman fan - more for his attitude and coachability than his impressive talent. I predict he will replace DMW as the "This is how we do it at Illinois" guy. Remember that Coleman was the overlooked #3 on his highly ranked HS team (too lazy to Google how his teammates are doing) but I'll bet he outlasts as the others in pro ball.
I agree with his father. It is fine for us as “fans” to speculate and talk about who plays and who does not, but that tweet is public. Is showing Coleman Hawkins some “ tough love” and coaching something that needs to be aired by our so called beat writers? It was one game, against a team we knew we were going to kill, Underwood clearly was sending a message to Coleman. Does Jeremy Warner need the “hits” so bad he needs to post basically just a jab at Hawkins? I don’t know, if this is 5 games from now, sure we have an issue and Coleman is or is not an Illini in the future, but one game? I bet money he plays lights out against Mizzou and I bet BBV keeps getting better also.
Should Plummer be upset he did not see the floor in the second half? It would be nice if our coaches could just coach and see how it works with out all the drama.
Well, that's interesting. If true, the most specific info we have on why he's been out, right?
I was starting to think it was a mental thing. Too much pressure, just not in the right head space, which of course would be really unfortunate for him personally and for the team. If it's as you (Tate) describes, that's much preferable.
Weird silver lining, and of course I would never wish this on the player, but I'm thinking that with each game he sits out the chances of him returning next year increase, right?
illini80
- Forgottonia
Werner is just reporting the facts of the game. I don’t see any issue at all with it. Who’s playing and what the rotation is is newsworthy information imo.
illini80
- Forgottonia
No idea what to think on the vertigo comments. I know people that deal with it, but not elite athletes so I’m not sure any anecdotal comparisons are meaningful. It also seems odd that if this is truly the issue, why they have made such an effort of secrecy, which unfortunately like this post, leads to uninformed speculation.
The student-athlete's (patient) medical history, screening information, injury records, injury diagnosis, injury treatment records, rehabilitation records, as well their injury-playing status are considered medical records. Information obtained from any of these medical documents is to be considered confidential.
Medical Documentation, Confidentiality, HIPAA, & FERPA
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illini80
- Forgottonia
Of course. That includes the flu, colds, vaccinations, shoulder injuries, back injuries, tailbone bruises, etc. Things that get talked about all the time. There are things that need to be protected obviously. You don’t think it’s odd the way this is being handled if it’s vertigo? That’s all I’m saying. I’m not asking for his medical records to be on twitter.The student-athlete's (patient) medical history, screening information, injury records, injury diagnosis, injury treatment records, rehabilitation records, as well their injury-playing status are considered medical records. Information obtained from any of these medical documents is to be considered confidential.
Medical Documentation, Confidentiality, HIPAA, & FERPA
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I didn't write HIPPA. I don't much care for the law. But it is the law and the University's athletic staff needs to respect it.
That said, I am glad that the news is finally out and we can all stop inventing eight million other explanations for why Belo is not playing. Let's move on to inventing home remedies for vertigo instead. /s/
I’ve been reading this board since my junior or senior year at Illinois (2008 and 2009) and resisted many urges to join and post. Thought it might be better to just sit back and enjoy the content and not get sucked in (yeah, right!). I remember the days or OrangeFever, Saltygrapes, and others that have come and gone.
I guess I was overdue to actually sign up, but as an actual ear doctor with expertise in treating vertigo, I figured I could provide a little more perspective. If Curbelo does have some form of vertigo, it is not as simple as performing canalith repositioning (the Epley maneuver, for example). Yes, it is possible he has BPPV (typically occurs in older adults, but can happen in case of a head injury like in sports, car accident, etc.). And if he does have some form of BPPV, you must determine the correct semicircular canal/s and then perform the correct maneuver (there are dozens, not just the Epley, which is for posterior canal BPPV).
I don’t think he has BPPV, as it will typically resolve without intervention in several weeks in most cases as the otoconia are absorbed by the fluid in the semicircular canals. Given that it has been much longer that he’s been out, current BPPV seems unlikely. Now, he may have some other form of vertigo and there are many other causes besides BPPV. When we see patients with vertigo, the cases are typically very complex and require a bit of work up. A typical dizzy patient may see neuro, cardiology, and many others. For some, they may never get a satisfactory explanation of the cause of the dizziness.
I’d also add that any type of TBI is no joke, and can result in many changes or issues, such as dizziness, change in mood, vision, and so forth.
Hopefully Curbelo recovers soon from whatever is going on. As an aside, I once was on a flight from Chicago to KC a day or two after Christmas many years ago when I saw Cliff Alexander on the plane and shouted I-L-L! I guess that may have been a little karma coming back to bite him for his hat fake, as his career quickly went downhill after that. Also, I got my wife (a KU grad) in the trade for Bill Self. I definitely came out ahead, but I do still have to put up with her love of KU basketball. No worries, though, my daughter is being raised right as an Illini fan!
illini80
- Forgottonia
Thanks for your insight!
YOU LIKE HIGHLIGHTS!?!What I miss?? I need highlights!!
Weirdest end to the game thread ever??
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Jalen Green was 2nd overall in the 2021 NBA draft, starting as a rookie for the Rockets, averaging 14 points in 30 minutes per game. Nimari Burnett played his freshman year at TT, transferred to Alabama, and is sitting out after season ending? knee surgery.
I’m way late to the party. Just read through the comments. Funny, all the we can’t win a game with only 4 players scoring comments after the Arizona battle, & not one mention of 11 players scoring in this game. I know this was against bad competition - just sayin
Sports is an intersection of varying types of priorities and loyalties all coming (crashing) together in the same space.
The parents of a young player want to see the best outcome for their athlete child regardless of any other circumstance involved. A singular desire. Everything else is secondary.
A Coach has multiple purposes that must be performed simultaneously. Yes, coaches want the best for their young individual athletes. But this must be in concert with other top priorities like... winning the game, winning the league, always being fair to other players, and setting an overall right tone for the futures of both the players and the program in general.
Totally leaving aside any specific player situation here...
Players just get to play. Coaches have to do all these other things and they can’t coach “scared” or worried about what others might say or do. Do I sit a guy and worry that he’s going to get mad and leave? Do I sit a guy and his PARENTS get mad and criticize me on social media? Do I play someone ahead of somebody else who deserves it more? Do I worry about The Media? My next contract?
Social media and the transfer rules (and Name & Likeness) have all made coaching exceeding more complex and difficult. Coaches “can’t" coach scared. Coaches can’t be afraid about might be said of them by anyone in social or corporate media. Or that some player might leave because he doesn’t like the rotation or something.
It’s a matter of trust. The player and his family must trust that the coach they selected to play for has the overall best interests of the player in mind - always. The coach must trust that the player will commit him or herself to the coach’s vision of how he/she best fits in - always. The coach has to trust in himself that he will do whatever is necessary – even if it looks unpopular – if it is the “right thing” to do in that situation and that it was necessary for the success of the program.
Everything works out in the end. Sometimes you get an Ayo who proudly carries a team on his back and restores it to prominence. Sometimes you get a guy who washes out after a year and carries his duffle bag off to someplace else.
It’s about trust and commitment from everyone involved. Winning is a pleasurable offshoot that we fans tend to fixate on.
